hide staff

• Feb 6, 2012 - 16:34

Dear all,
I tried to hide a staff but the result is not good.
It's a score for voice and piano. The score end with a solo piano part then I tried to hide the voice score and what I got is shown in the file "hide_left_mesure_with_mscore1_1.pdf" here attached.
With the version 2.0 (Nightly) I was able to obtain something better, but still not good (see file attached:"hide_left_mesure_with_mscoreBETA2.pdf").
I'm trying to obtain a clear division between the two instrument staff (see file: "target_hide_left_mesure.pdf")
Do you have some ideas? how to do it?
Thank you in advance.


Comments

If I'm understanding correctly, there is no need to actually hide anything - at least, not explicitly. Simply turn on the "Hide Empty Staves" option under Style->Edit General Style->Score" and MuseScore does what you want automatically. Don't try it before entering notes, of course, or everything disappears :-)

In reply to by Marc Sabatella

Thank you for your help.
Yes in this case your solution works fine but I was just showing a "problem" that I found in Musescore. I like to have "under control" the software to face most of the problems we can find in music notation.
For instance in contemporary music we use several times to hide just one part of staff and Musescore can do it but I think that Mscore is not able to hide properly the 1st bar of a system.
Another problem come when we realize a blank format (useful for sketch,students and composers).
Do you have some suggest how to do it or is a limit of Musescore? if it is a limit could be possible to add this feature in Musescore 2.0?
Thanks a lot

In reply to by Marc Sabatella

Several times composers use to hide only few bars, there are many orchestral works where some instruments (in the middle of the page when are silent) are not visible in the score (especially in compositions of 1965/75).
Here attached I show you the same example that I showed you before but now only the 1st bar is not visible.
There are no notes but is the same with or without.
I wasn't able to resolve this with musescore.
Any suggestions?
Thank you for your support

Attachment Size
hide_left_mesure2.pdf 26.37 KB

In reply to by Beethoven_

Is this meant to be an ossia - a measure that floats above the staff to show an alternate way of playing a passage? If so, that's definitely a request that has been made before, so hopefully it willbe added some day. If it's not meant to be an ossia but just single missing measure, then I guess it doesn't well as it stands, and you should probably submit a report in the Issue Tracker with the example you included. Just curious - what is this notation meant to convey?

In reply to by Marc Sabatella

No this is not an ossia, it's exactly a single missing mesasure.
Yes I think that is a "bug".

Why composers used this kind of notation? In my opinion it was just a way to cut with the past, the score is no more "only sound" but is part of the work. Visual art and music where really close.
You can see some example here where the score is totally deformed--->
[http://www.google.it/search?q=graphical+score&hl=it&client=safari&rls=e…]

Thank you again for your support.

For me it would be really useful if I could make the top staff of a piano part disappear - I use piano to create lead sheets for my band, so the bass can read the LH, and everyone else the RH. But during the verse, where there's only vocals, I would love to have the RH part disappear, in the interest of keeping the charts down to two pages max - after all it's a pop band. Then have it come back for the required explicit part. Know what I'm sayin?

Cheers
Sam

In reply to by [DELETED] 5

Sorry, gentlemen, but I think I misunderstood you.

I would like to "hide" the lower staff of a piano part (even "separate" the two, if possible, removing the vertical bar that connects them) and then "hide" the bass-cleff staff without deleting it from the score, so that I can use only the top staff for printing. Must I create an entirely new and separate staff every time, and copy and paste all the notes from the top staff, to the new independent one, in order to achieve that goal? the FILE...INSTRUMENTS... option allows me to REMOVE instruments, and HIDE them altogether, but not make the one staff invisible while retaining the visibility of the other.

In reply to by ErikJon

If you use hide empty staves, then which ever staff is empty will be hidden. The staves in a grand staff (like the piano) act independently regarding this. Be aware that a single note on the system anywhere will prevent the staff from being hidden, so you may need to adjust system breaks to accomplish your goal.

In reply to by mike320

O.K. Well, I work with lots of simple songs such as old hymns, that do not usually cross over from one staff to the other. I usually import a MIDI file of a piano part, and retain only the melody, or else the melody with the second voice, typically found in the top staff, and sometimes want to delete everything else. I transpose the part for saxophone and clarinet. Until now I have "removed" the lower staff, but lately I have decided to keep it intact, as long as I can make it "invisible," in case I need the other voices for creating an arrangement for several saxophones or for several clarinets, and to enhance the playback of my simple melody staff, in the meantime. Is there no way to "hide" the lower staff like that?

In reply to by ErikJon

Understand this thread is over five years old and much has changed since then, so comments here don't necessarily apply any more.

Anyhow, it's not totally clear what you actually mean here, but I think you are saying you have music for piano that has notes on both staves but for some reason you only want to print one of them. The way to do this would be to create your score as two instruments of one staff each rather than one instrument of two staves. If you've already created it the other way, just add a new instrument with one staff (eg, add a piano then delete one staff) then copy paste your original second piano staff to there, then delete that original staff. Once you've done this once, you never need to do it again - now you can hide the second staff easily in Edit / Instruments. And if you plan to do the same with other score,s just save this to your Templates folder and use it instead of the standard piano or grand staff templates.

If that doesn't help, please start a new thread and attach your score so we can understand and assist better.

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