Two-Measure Repeat Sign
In the "Repeat" palette there is a one-measure repeat--slash with two dots--from Berkeley notation. It would be great to have the two-measure repeat--two slashes with two dots spanning two bars--but also to have the numbering correct, unlike Finale.
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I think this is so important. Include the ability to decide the number of bars.
Regards.
In reply to Two or more Measure Repeat Sign by xavierjazz
I wholeheartedly agree a 2 (or more, the number must be a variable) measure repeat sign. This is extreamly common and needs to be part of the palate or at least available somewhere.
Thanks,
In reply to Two or more Measure Repeat Sign by xavierjazz
Many of the 'show tune' kinds of scores have a lot of multi-measure repeats or rests. I can recall seeing a 32 measure rest in one, and a 16 measure repeat in another. This is a feature I really need and will use often.
In reply to I Need It ! by srrrrfguitar
Multi measure rests are already supported. But surely for a 16 bar repeat, you'd use regular repeat bars, not a special and entirely unorthodox 16-bar-reat symbol?
In reply to Multi measure rests are by Marc Sabatella
In a quick look, I found a 24 measure rest (guitar book for "Little Shop of Horrors", #5, "You Never Know"). It is an enlongated whole note rest with the number '24' written above it. Followed by a 16 measure rest (written the same as the 24), followed by a 4, then an 8, then a repeated 4, and another repeated 4. I'll look for an example of multi repeats later. This is not unusual in show tunes where the music has to accomodate onstage dialogue and action. The notation used saves a lot of real estate in the book, and some page turning. It is useful, even if ugly.
I've seen 2... pretty sure I've seen 4... and I think I may have even heard of 8 or something... so it'd be good to be able to choose any number.
In reply to I've seen 2... pretty sure by ceegers
the question is How to do this?
Anyone know?
In reply to yes but how??? by Roberba
Actually, in a quick google search, it doesn't seem to show an example of any more than 2-bar repeat... so maybe I just imagined I saw them...
Anyway... I just created one now using a caesura and two dot symbols. You could do that and then hide the notes/rests to make it look correct. Temporary fix anyway :)
Edit: Actually, I just found somebody talking about how to do a 4-bar one on finale, so I guess it is around. See picture. NOTE: the directions are for finale, not musescore.
In reply to Actually, in a quick google by ceegers
Thanks I'll give it a shot.
In reply to Actually, in a quick google by ceegers
There it is. There are old threads asking for this very thing, but this is the first example I can remember being posted.
I also use the 2 bar sign in a bar and use a number over the graphic representing how many previous bars to repeat.
Workaround (sorry, not for everyone):
Empty two measures, set rests to invisible.
Export file as pdf.
Import in InDesign (or any other layout program capable of editing pdfs).
Type "alt+q" in MAESTRO font at the desired position.
Export as new pdf.
Needs a perfect score in MuseScore, or one has to repeat those steps endlessly...
In reply to Workaround (sorry, not for by william ockham
If you save the repeat sign as SVG or PNG you can drag the image file into MuseScore and skip the"endless steps" through PDF and InDesign.
In reply to If you save the repeat sign by David Bolton
Yes, that's true!
I haven't thought about that because I export my scores to InDesign nevertheless. I can't use the bad kerning that Muse produces. Btw - is there a solution in sight?
Greetings
In reply to Yes, that's true! I haven't by william ockham
Which kerning issue ?
In reply to Which kerning issue ? by [DELETED] 5
The kerning issue should be fixed in MuseScore 2.0 when we switch to Qt 4.7. At the time of the bug report I didn't notice it (since it is not noticeable on screen in Windows), but the bad kerning is noticeably when you print.
Here is the bug report: http://musescore.org/en/node/6834
In reply to Workaround (sorry, not for by william ockham
If you have a font with the sign, it's more convenient using it directly in MuseScore.
Make everything in the measure invisible, add a text, choose the font and the right character and position it with drag and drop.
In reply to If you have a font with the by [DELETED] 5
This doesn't work for me. Typing alt+q gives no output at all. That's why I had the idea with the pdf export.
(OSX10.4.11, G5)
In reply to This doesn't work for me. by william ockham
It works for me on Windows (via Copy and Paste). See attached (obviously the attached file will only show the double repeat character if you have the Maestro font that comes with Finale).
In reply to It works for me on Windows by David Bolton
Copy and paste from a text editor doesn't work for me either...
But it works from your file ;-)
In reply to Copy and paste from a text by william ockham
The Maestro font isn't Unicode compatible, which I noticed causes problems even on Windows (A lot has changed in personal computing (for the better) since the late 1980s, early 1990s. Unfortunately some parts of Finale haven't been updated yet). I had to insert the symbol into Microsoft Word, copy and paste the symbol into the search box in Firefox (which I suspect converted it to Unicode encoding), then copy and paste it into MuseScore.
I created a feature request #10220: Add a two and four measure (multi-measure) repeat sign with playback
A 2 bar repeat symbol is very useful and an n bar repeat symbol may be useful sometimes.
In reply to 2 bar repeat symbol by jazzzzdude
This would be very useful.
This is one of those common-use anomalies like calling the vibrato bar on a guitar a "tremolo" bar. The multi-measure repeat was standardized by Berkeley. The slashes and span indicate the number of measures of rest, but the numeral above the symbols are supposed to enumerate the repetitions, not reiterate now many measures in the repeat. Finale--and most publishers--do this wrong.
In reply to symbols ok; numbering is wrong by royschaeffer
I have found this useful in the past. I found this in Alfred's Essential Dictionary of Notation (see attachment). I take it to mean the repeat barlines.
In reply to symbols ok; numbering is wrong by royschaeffer
That may be so but you can't do either with Musescore.
The only work around I have found is to add System Text and move the text over the repeat measure sign. It would be nice if there were a multi-measure repeat that had editable text so you could put in the number of measures for the repeat.
Please implement this feature, it's very important and opened too long... I'm missing it almost every time when I'm transcribing music based on few times repeating 2-4 measures long riffs.
In reply to Please implement this by vitac
I agree, it needs to be there. Meanwhile, if you're not familiar with "slash notation", you might consider that as a workaround - and look at the Plugins repository to find a utility that can create this automatically. As a person who reads and plays this stuff for a living, I can tell you that if you use slash notation and the word "simile", that means exactly the same thing, and is actually probably more familiar to most of us. The two-measure repeat sign, is just another way of saying the same thing.
In reply to I agree, it needs to be by Marc Sabatella
Thanks Marc for your suggestion and the Plugin!
MuseScore definately needs a tool that performs a Two Measure Repeat function correctly.
I have in the interim created a cosmetic work-around that is notationally correct and looks pretty good too, however it is non-functional as a repeat mechanism. The measures are counted correctly but during playback the measures are totally silent (interpretted as rests if you will).
I have attached a sample of my work-around.
I hope you can use it!
If you have any questions, comments or concerns please contact me at Stephencab@MSN.Com.
Thanks,
Best Regards,
Steve C
In reply to Two Measure Repeat Cosmetic Work-Around by Stephencab
Hi -
Please see my comments in the bug report for this issue (http://musescore.org/en/node/10220). The workaround above has stopped working.
I've also added a few examples from contemporary musical scores. This symbol is used all the time and not having it is really a problem.
Thanks
...this is a most necessary inclusion. I've started to use MuseScore a few weeks ago, and it's the first thing I was looking for on the forum here. Thanks to Stephencab for the workaround.
I completely agree with the request to add the two-measure repeat sign. It saves paper, and it's very useful throughout repetitive music. I have resorted for now to just adding the new measures and copy/pasting them in, which is exhausting but still worth it because the music flows the same. It'd be so much easier just to have a two-measure repeat sign we could insert. It would make it both prettier and faster!
I agree that this is needed.
As a drummer, this is the most frustrating problem I have with the software.
The workaround is clever, but completely impracticable for anything more than two or three iterations.
And just copy-pasting makes a chart very difficult to read, particularly for drummers.
In reply to Absolutely Necessary by [DELETED] 128045
Just to keep my previous wish current, I would like it to be a "X" number of bar repeat because sometimes a 4 bar is useful to me.
Yes please!
I'm new to Musescore and was looking for how to add a 2 bar repeat symbol and came across this thread, so just another vote from me.
Matt
Thanks for the great software!
In reply to Yes please! I'm new to by MattB
for the two mesure repeat sign, I know someone has been abele to make it in musescore (with simple repeat sign) .. .but I don't find where anymore ... :(
edit : it was on that page (oups) : http://musescore.org/sites/musescore.org/files/Two%20Measure%20Repeat%2…
In reply to for the two mesure repeat by Zynette
Its 2018 and we're in version 2.3.2. I still cannot find any two-measure repeat sign in the Z palette.
In reply to Its 2018 and we're in… by ErikJon
see: https://musescore.org/en/node/103336
In reply to see: https://musescore.org… by mike320
Thank you, Mike, but--aside from the complicated explanation--the part that perplexes me says:
"8. Add a "Double Repeat-Measure" sign between measures 3 & 4 (found in the symbols palette). Adjust it to be in the exact centre of the barline."
I find no such symbol anywhere in the Master Palette. Even if I go to the "repeats" section, there is no double-repeat sign, but not even in the combined "symbols" section. I find only the "one measure repeat sign.'
In reply to Thank you, Mike, but--aside… by ErikJon
This is what my Master Palette looks like, although I am using the "dark theme." I see no double-measure repeat symbols anywhere, to say nothing of triple, etc.
In reply to This is what my Master… by ErikJon
Your screenshot appears to show you having changed the font from the default.Bravura to Emmentaler, which is indeed more limited. Switch it back using the drop-down there and you should see a lot more symbols, and then searching for "repeat" will bring up what you are looking for.
In reply to Thank you, Mike, but--aside… by ErikJon
It's not in the Repeats palette but definitely in the Symbols palette. How did did you look for it? Did you try typing "repeat" into the search bar at the top of the Symbols palette?
In reply to It's not in the Repeats… by Marc Sabatella
I knew I must have done something wrong. Yes, I changed the font, because it seemed that this was the correct font used for everything else in the program, and when I changed it, I did not notice any difference in the topmost part of the palette, other than the thickness of the symbols, so I assumed that the number of characters was identical.
Yes, now I see the symbol that I was looking for.
Sorry for the trouble. Thanks, again for your kind help.