can't add second voice - tried everything
converts second voice to first voice - no matter when I press second voice or when I press N or if I restart.
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converts second voice to first voice - no matter when I press second voice or when I press N or if I restart.
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Any wrong steps?
Which version do you use?
Can you attach here the score you are having problems with?
In reply to Any wrong steps? Which… by Shoichi
it is a super simple score - just a drumset with hi-hat in quarter notes - I just want to add another couple of voices - cowbell etc... So if I click on the first quarter then N - then second voice - the cursor changes slightly to a turquoise - then when I enter a note on the keyboard it reverts back to first voice and changes what I had entered and reverts to first voice. If I don't press N and press second voice I get a whole bunch of rests - which if I click on without N enable will change the note to what I want but not in the duration I want - otherwise it changes back to first voice.
I have read that this problem has existed for a long time.
In reply to it is a super simple score -… by Canuckistani
For the unpitched drumset use the mouse to add a note on the same beat in this case.
In reply to it is a super simple score -… by Canuckistani
Ah, drumset! Entirely different beasty, see https://musescore.org/en/handbook/3/drum-notation
N, Ctrl+Alt+1, start entering notes
You need to select voice 2 after having started note entry
In reply to N, Ctrl+Alt+1, start… by Jojo-Schmitz
Nope. First thing I tried after having read the forums.
In reply to Nope. First thing I tried… by Canuckistani
Thankyou however for replying so quickly!
Jarl
In reply to Thankyou however for… by Canuckistani
I am using the 3.05.5992
In reply to I am using the 3.05.5992 by Canuckistani
Me too, and that works for me
Edit: Not for drumset though ;-), see https://musescore.org/en/handbook/3/drum-notation
In reply to Me too, and that works for me by Jojo-Schmitz
Ok so thanks for that - didn't expect that there would be a different method of entering for drums/percussion.
In reply to Ok so thanks for that - didn… by Canuckistani
Good point, I think.
In reply to Ok so thanks for that - didn… by Canuckistani
Well I can say that the help file - is incomprehensible. And the youtube video - is from another era. Giving up. Moving back to finale. Can't really spend more than 2 hours figuring out how to do something this simple. Thanks for the help however.
Jarl
In reply to Well I can say that the help… by Canuckistani
As mentioned: did you use the mouse for this note input (inside the note input mode selecting first the voice and after it the desired note via mouse)?
In reply to As mentioned: did you use… by kuwitt
I think the real issue is that there is another method for inputting notes - for drumset. The voices are fixed according to some criteria (I think its based on feet and hands or something like this). So certain instruments are fixed according to voice - voice one is hands - voice two feet - or something like this. Anyway the simple thing of having a hi-hat and a cowbell on different voices - is needlessly complex.
In reply to I think the real issue is… by Canuckistani
having a hi-hat and a cowbell on different voices - is needlessly complex
This is what is necessary for the drum notation to look proper in MuseScore. It's the same idea as the snare and bass drums being in different voices.
In reply to I think the real issue is… by Canuckistani
Without sure if it's common, but I suppose you're looking for a similar way of note input like this?:
In reply to I think the real issue is… by Canuckistani
Yes, MsueScore follows the standard convetion by default of upstem for hands, down sfor feet. if you wish to use a different convention, simply edit the drumset using the Edit Drumset button. Or, if you wish to place a single note in a different voice than its default (eg, you want cowbell in voice 1 mostly, but voice just in one specific measure), just click the voice button after clicking the cowbell icon but before clicking in the score. It's actually quite elegant and efficient.
In reply to Well I can say that the help… by Canuckistani
Drum entry is not exactly a basic task, and expecting to learn the ins and outs of a new program in less than 2 hours is unreasonable
The videos are indeed, well, seasoned ;-), and for MuseScore 2 or even 1, but AFAIK nothing fundamental has changed in MuseScore 3 in that regard
In reply to Well I can say that the help… by Canuckistani
Not entry in a percussion staff hasn't changed in a lot of releases. The video is probably applicable to version 3 unless you found a version 1 video.
In reply to Not entry in a percussion… by mike320
ok maybe I am being unreasonable - I agree I'm frustrated - I'll try again tomorrow.
Truly though - thanks for the help. You have a difficult job sir.
Jarl
In reply to ok maybe I am being… by Canuckistani
And an unpaid one at that ;-)
In reply to And an unpaid one at that ;-) by Jojo-Schmitz
I hereby send you 100 "thank-you-dollars".
In reply to ok maybe I am being… by Canuckistani
Jarl,
Being frustrated is not fun. So please try again fresh tomorrow.
As you can see, there are a lot of people here who want you to learn to enjoy the program. None of the people who have responded to this thread have a different relationship than you to MuseScore. We just like helping others.
MuseScore is a complex program and has a learning curve. None of us learned everything about this program in 2 hours. It's not Finale or Sibelius so you should expect to find things that are different in all three of the programs.
I'm no expert in drum notation in MuseScore or drum notation at all. I have read the handbook concerning drum notation and can get around a percussion staff, add a drum to as staff and write some drum music. Learning by reading comes easy to me, but I understand people are different.
In reply to Ok so thanks for that - didn… by Canuckistani
There is a good reason drums work differently, because their notation is very different. The scheme we use for pitched notes gives a lot of flexibility but would require a lot of extra work for drums, constantly having to select voices when MuseScore knows perfectly well each note has its own specific voice. So if you want to follow a different set of voice rules than the default, simply edit the drumset. Once you do that, you'll find you don't need to even touch the voice buttons entering drum notes.
In reply to There is a good reason drums… by Marc Sabatella
Thankyou all for your help - I'm back at it today. I use musescore regularly for composition - but haven't at all for drums/percussion. Got a bit frustrated yesterday - thanks again all for your help.
Jarl
In reply to N, Ctrl+Alt+1, start… by Jojo-Schmitz
Thanks!! This worked like a charm for me. I was trying to add a second voice in the middle of the measure. But the second voice should be entered at the beginning of the measure; pressing CTRL+ALT+1 after having pressed N does exactly that, then you press voice two and voila'. One can then delete the unwanted notes and the rests too.