Request for elements other than notes to be movable using voice toolbar buttons
Reported version
3.0
Priority
P2 - Medium
Type
Functional
Frequency
Once
Severity
S5 - Suggestion
Reproducibility
Always
Status
active
Regression
No
Workaround
No
Project
I thought this was a 3.x regression but it turns out to be present in 2.x after all.
1) create music with slurs and/or ties.
2) try to change voice of passage including slurs and/or ties.
Result: the slurred notes change voice but the slurs stay in the voice they were in. The tied notes and their ties refuse to change voice. Only thing that can be done is deleting the slurs, ties, and tied notes which are now in the wrong voice and re-entering them in the proper voice manually.
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Comments
I guess you are trying to use the toolbar buttons to move the notes to another voice? This does indeed move only the notes themselves, not any markings connected to them. To completely move the contents of voices - notes and markings too - don't use the toolbar buttons, use Tools / Voices.
Regarding the fact that ties are not supported, this known limitation in the original design has a pending fix - see #75626: Cannot move tied note into another voice
Regarding the toolbar buttons, consider that with slurs, you may or may not have selected all the notes under the slur. It is conceivable that someday we will add a feature to detect if all the notes under the slur have been moved and then move the slur automatically.
I have updated the issue properties in accordance with this information.
In reply to I guess you are trying to… by Marc Sabatella
Your new title entirely misses the point.
The button to move things to a new voice should move all the things you've selected to that voice, and none of the things you haven't selected.
If the slur is selected, I expect the toolbar button to change the voice the slur is in. If I've only selected the notes, I expect it to move only the notes.
I don't care whether "you may or may not have selected all the notes under the slur." I don't want MuseScore to try to guess whether "all the notes under the slur have been moved and then move the slur automatically." Rather, if the slur is selected and I tell it to change voice, it should change voice. Even if I've selected only the slur and none of the notes.
As I said, the toolbar buttons are only for notes. They have never been intended for any other purpose. Originally, they were only active while entering notes, but at some point the ability to move notes after entering them was added. Still, that's all they were intended to be used for - moving notes. Again, if you want to move things other than notes along with the notes, that's what Tools / Voices was designed to allow allows - it works on the entire range selection, not just the notes.
I have now updated the issue title to hopefully be clearer, then, about the difference between what the toolbar buttons actually do versus what you are requesting they be able to do. Currently, they move notes, period. You are requesting they move other elements too if those elements are actually selected. Makes sense, it should in principle be doable.
(typos)
The buttons are always staring right at you, whereas Tools>Voices is tucked away. That could confuse new users. (It has confused me several times over because I don't use voices much and keep forgetting how this works.)
But please do keep Tools>Voices as is so that keyboard shortcuts for this can be assigned if needed.