When in flat key, cycling up to get sharp key, sharp key missed.
Key of Eb.
Press "d" to enter note. Press "up" to get d#.
Expected - D#.
Actual - Eb.
Only way to get d# is enter d and then use mouse to select sharp.
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Press "J"
In reply to Press "J" by Raymond Wicquart
Thank you, that worked, but this is a kludge. The sharp should be in the sequence.
In reply to Thank you, that worked, but… by xavierjazz
MuseScore uses the key signature first. If you want something different you must press J or insert a D and add the sharp.
In reply to MuseScore uses the key… by mike320
The key signature first is fine. I am talking about the key signature ONLY.
In reply to The key signature first is… by xavierjazz
That's what J (respell) is for. It's still one key. It makes no sense for the up arrow to change an Eb to anything but E natural (or Fb if that's the key signature) since the arrow's purpose is to raise the pitch 1/2 step. There are tools for nearly everything you want, you need to use the correct tool.
In reply to That's what J (respell) is… by mike320
:)
It seems strange to me to assign another key to achieve what could be so simple and intuitive as to just include it in the cycling.
In reply to :) It seems strange to me to… by xavierjazz
J cycles through the enharmonic spellings, arrows do not.
In reply to :) It seems strange to me to… by xavierjazz
Exactly - arrows don't cycle, they simply raise pitch, And 99 times out of 100, you want* Eb, not D#, n the key of Eb. For the remaining 1% of times, you can use the "J" key, or enter the accidental directly via the toolbar or palette.
In reply to Exactly - arrows don't cycle… by Marc Sabatella
Hi Xavier,
Think to C major key.
Start from note g, press up arrow four times.
You get
g# a a# b
Not
g# g## g### g####
That's the normal expected behaviour of up arrow.
And in fact, if the old request to be able to input by keyboard directly altered notes without needing to introduce (and hear :-) ! )
the not altered first, one would not need arrows at all for pure introduction, only for modification.
You could introduce directly your d#
In reply to Hi Xavier, Think to C major… by frfancha
I have found it convenient to set up shortcuts to enter accidentals from the keyboard. I have "-" for flat, "#" for sharp and "=" for natural but others may find different assignments may may suit better. I have reassigned toggling autoplace to"@". But I never use that snyeay. Double flats and sharps are sufficiently rare that I can stand a few more keys to get them.
In reply to Hi Xavier, Think to C major… by frfancha
You could introduce directly your d#
As of MuseScore 3.3 you can do this, since the accidental buttons (and, of course, the corresponding shortcuts) now affect the note you are about to enter rather than the note you just entered.
In reply to You could introduce directly… by mattmcclinch
That's great news, thanks.
Thanks for your comments everyone.
I can understand having a special way to add double sharps/flats. I will ponder this some more, but I still think that all single accidentals should be in the loop. :)
In reply to Thanks for your comments… by xavierjazz
They are in the loop: scale of c, from b arrow up to get c and # modifier to get b#
In reply to They are in the loop: scale… by frfancha
Hi. If you read my original post, it refers to sharps in a flat key.
In reply to Thanks for your comments… by xavierjazz
I still think that all single accidentals should be in the loop.
No. The up and down arrow keys are mapped to the "pitch-up" and "pitch-down" commands. The purpose of these commands is to raise or lower the pitch of the note by one half step. The spelling of the resulting pitch is chosen based on the key signature. It would be inappropriate for these commands to cycle between enharmonics, which is why we have a separate command to do just that. It also makes more sense (in my opinion) to enter the D# directly, rather than enter a D and then change the pitch.
In reply to Thanks for your comments… by xavierjazz
Single accidental are in the loop. The only command that has a concept of a loop is J (well, and Shift+J), and sharps work there even in flat keys. No other commands involve loops. Up/down don’t loop, they increase or decrease pitch, never stopping to loop. the accidental command always toggle the specified accidental, pressing sharp never adds a flat.