8192nd note :)
so I'm making an adaption of Faerie's Aire and Death Waltz for fun and it has an 8192nd note. Is it possible to do such a thing?
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so I'm making an adaption of Faerie's Aire and Death Waltz for fun and it has an 8192nd note. Is it possible to do such a thing?
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Yes, but it requires faerie magic. You would need eleven (I think) flags on one stem for this so make a 3-flagged (32nd) note with a very long stem and superimpose it upon an 8-flagged note from the Symbols part of the Master Palette. Playback requires faerie dust but this won't be available until MuseScore v 683.2.01.
I've searched the Master Palette and the shortest I could find was the 1024th note. Maybe suggest it in the Feature Request column?
McCleffy
In reply to I've searched the Master by McCleffy
(jaw drops) Seriously?
In reply to I've searched the Master by McCleffy
The current implementation doesn't allow for notes shorter than 256th (or is it 512th?), see #17668: Add note types 1024th, 512th and maxima
And none of the musical fonts he have at hand allow notes shorter than 1024th, but even for (512th and) 1024th we'd need major changes to the code
In reply to The current implementation by Jojo-Schmitz
Do we need to take John Stump's notation seriously? According to the fount of all human knowledge, Wikipedia , there is such a thing as a two hundred and fifty-sixth note, and one or two people in history have ever got it into their heads to add more flags and beams than that.
In reply to I've searched the Master by McCleffy
If you're really determined to recreate John Stump's work, here's a shot of some crazy short notes using voices, note stacking, and setting things invisible. It won't play right but they look impressive.
In reply to If you're really determined by schepers
some things about this image arent right and its hilarious
the key signature, having flats and sharps at the same time, is something ive never seen
the fact that there is a bass clef but its just wrong since the key signature shows where b and e are
and the big one: the 8192nd note
i have no clue how i noticed the bass clef being a pixel higher than it should be. just look at that top line
and somehow i noticed that before looking at the flag on the 8192nd note overlapping itself, but that makes sense considering the limitations of musescore
congratulations on making this musical monstrosity in a free music making program. i love it because of its annoyance.
In reply to some things about this image… by jnd8191
You did notice that the post you replied to is more then 6 years old, did you?
In reply to some things about this image… by jnd8191
But FWIW, you might want to look up John Stump - he's famous for this sort of thing.
In reply to some things about this image… by jnd8191
> "the key signature, having flats and sharps at the same time, is something ive never seen"
Time to look at more music (and different genres) then ;-)
> "the fact that there is a bass clef but its just wrong since the key signature shows where b and e are"
Except that it's the other way around, the bass clef is right, and those flats aren't on b and e.
Welcome to the wonderful (and for many confusing) world of custom key signatures.
Have you considered simply doubling all the note lengths and doubling the tempo until it's a reasonable size? It's easier to do absurdly long notes than it is absurdly short ones.
In reply to Have you considered simply by LuuBluum
Come on, how will we then be able to write a 1-bar-symphony?
It'll work without it (I mean it's not like it'll make that much of a difference). But anyways so far it's quite strange sounding, I don't know if I've done everything right but it looks good (chaotically). There some symbols I wasn't able to identify some symbols in the master palette that are supposed to be there. But I don't know that much about this stuff, I've been playing clarinet for just 4 years.
In my opinion, this request is pretty hilarious. :)
I'm aware that one could divide notes in shorter and shorter values without a theoretical limit, but things quickly become unmanageable. So, 1/32768 notes remain what they are - a theoretical sort of things. Never ever use them, as they are 1) useless and 2) unmanageable by any regular human ear and brain.
In reply to In my opinion, this request by Aldo
Not to mention that this is shorter than the time required for one full sine wave for the lowest note on the piano.
In reply to Not to mention that this is by underquark
That depends—if the tempo is 256th = 2 per minute, for example, the note would last a little longer.
In reply to That depends—if the tempo is by Isaac Weiss
Ah, but we're talking about a specific piece here and the tempo is clearly stated as "Adagio cantabile with a rock tempo feel" so I'm gonna interpret that as 120BPM. At this speed the 1/8192 note is shorter than most humans' reaction time to audible stimuli. Now, I think there is a more serious issue as I count 14 flags on some of the notes and that makes them 1/65536 notes thus making it improbable that anything other than a very gifted bat (homage to "Tales from the Crypt") would be able to hear them, let lone emit them (unless you play the E# obstetric ultrasound machine or something).
In reply to Ah, but we're talking about a by underquark
Very good points—I thought we were moving into more general terms, but there is a clearly marked tempo at the beginning of the Faerie's Air. However, how do you decide to interpret "Adagio cantabile with a rock tempo feel" as 120 BPM? That feels more like 40 BPM to me.
In reply to Very good points—I thought we by Isaac Weiss
Ah, I see that you are thinking "Stairway" whereas I was leaning more towards "Paranoid" by Black Sabbath or maybe "Fireball" by Deep Purple or perhaps "Night Flight" from Focus' 6th album (or even the screechy high singing one from the same).
In reply to Ah, but we're talking about a by underquark
I just took a wild guess and placed it at 90 for now
In reply to That depends—if the tempo is by Isaac Weiss
2 BPM... wow...
In reply to In my opinion, this request by Aldo
How about a 4,398,046,511,104th note?
In reply to How about a by McCleffy
That would have 40 stems and each beat would be a trillion of them. You would have to make the tempo about 125 billion seconds each to hold that speed and to play one beat at the speed I described, that would take about four thousand years. If you had the superpower to put the tempo at moderato or allegretto (100 to 120 bpm) that would be impressive, but no melody would be heard.
In reply to That would have 40 stems and… by ES_MUSESCORE
flags, not stems. One stem, but a very long one ;-)
score
https://musescore.com/user/9201636/scores/2073091
WHYYYYYYY!!!_gentle_TERROR.mscz
I'm reminded of this other John Stump emulator: https://musescore.com/user/35090/scores/52711
You mean a demihemisemihemisemidemiquaver? (just kidding, I am googling the name for that right now.)
No, it is not, That is a fictional song.
In reply to No, it is not, That is a… by hcps-braslers
There's quite alot of updates to make.
In reply to There's quite alot of… by s1114182721
We're in the golden age so we should take our music to the next level