Odd Irregular Measures and Selecting Issues
Hi, I'm using MuseScore 1.1 on 64bit Windows 7.
I'm attaching a file which displays a number of odd things. For one, it's allowing many non-standard 4/4 measures. Measure properties on the afflicted measures (1, 2, 4, 7, 13) claim to be in 4/4, but are clearly not. No amount of editing or trying to move things around get them back to 4/4.
Secondly, try selecting measure 6 individually. For me, it selects the remaining measures from that point on. Is that happening for others as well? Now try selecting measure 7, it turns the borders of the workspace white instead of grey but does not select the measure.
I did not create this file from scratch and I got it from another user. I believe he was trying to import it into MuseScore using either midi or musicxml created originally in Finale Notebook. I'm going to talk with him tonight about his process of importing to see if we can shed any light on how he got such irregular measures.
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Hi :)
I've been having some issues myself while porting my stuff over to MuseScore from Finale 2003.
One thing I have learnt is that Finale can save incomplete bars. If one of these is subsequently exported via the Dolet MusicXML plugin that bar get's screwed on import into MuseScore.
It is a MusicXML problem, not a MuseScore one.
HTH
Michael
If you can get the original file and the MusicXML file, it would be very useful to debug the problem.
In reply to If you can get the original by [DELETED] 5
It turns out that everything was keyed into MuseScore from scratch without any original import from Finale. I think it was actually my attempt to edit the original file that caused the irregular measures.
I was trying to take a series of triplets, cut them, and paste them onto an earlier beat in the measure. I think it may have been a combination of triplet markings / chord symbols / lyrics which were left behind and interfered with the paste. I think in the future I'll just create the edited measures in a separate document, completely delete and reinsert new measures in the original document, then paste the measures onto a nice clean slate.
I still wish there was an option that told MuseScore to temporarily stop enforcing 4 beats per measure while you edit and move things around. Enforcing 4 beats per measure is handy for note entry but a nightmare for editing (especially when trying to do things like shift everything over one beat).
In reply to It turns out that everything by OnaZ
If you want to play around with a measure you can (temporarily) assign extra beats to a measure by using the measure properties dialogue.
Right click on a bar and you should see a Measure Properties option.
Open that and you can see the nominal measuer time signature and then below it the actual measure time signature which you can edit at will.
I use this a great deal as I am constantly working with irregular text rhythms so consequently I use a hidden time signature at the beginning of the score and adjust the actual time signature via Measure Properties depending on how many beats I need in each individual bar.
HTH
Michael
In reply to Use the Measure Properties Dialogue by ChurchOrganist
tip. Thanks.
In reply to It turns out that everything by OnaZ
Cutting and pasting individual fractions of measures that include triplets is definitely the most sure-fire way to create corrupt measures in MuseScore. I have a feeling that if we could really isolate a few specific scenarios to reproduce these issues and someone were able to identify the actual source(s) of the bug in MuseScore and fix it, this would be one of the more worthwhile things that could be done.
Meanwhile, as far as having a "scratch pad" area for copy and paste, you could create a measure with lots and lots of beats, then fill it with quarter rests. This won't fix the bug, of course, but it could still prove a useful idea to play with.
See: #9909: Copying single tuplet pastes as standard note and produces tied mess upon undo