Using dotted rest feature, when you remove the dot it is leaving a 32nd rest in place (in 12/8)
I was working on a project and trying to get the timing right for a transcription of a recording. I wrote in material then later deleted what I had previous there. Some time later I clicked on a rest and dotted it. (I'm in twelve eight) and now I have 30 sec rest in measure 21 last beat. I can not get rid of it.
When I went to close the file and save , it said corrupt file and whether I wanted to ignore, see detail or some other option. I hit ignore , and saved then closed. Now I'm Not sure how to get rid of the corrupt file or the 30 sec rest.
Please help!
I'm using windows 7 version 2.03 of muse score 2
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Can you provide precise steps to reproduce the problem?
I figured out how to get rid of the 32nd but, it still says the file is corrupt, and I don't know how to fix it. In the details its giving me that the measures are incomplete (12/8) and it wont let me correct them. I'm including a problem page and I noticed that when I broke the subdivision down of 12/8 into 32nd , 16ths and eighths it sometimes short changes by one eight. Check out measures 22 if I not mistaken there are 11 eighths in it and tried to tie over the last eight.
hope that helps.
See https://musescore.org/en/node/54721 on how to fix corruptions. There's more than one BTW:
Measure 2 Staff 1 incomplete. Expected: 12/8; Found: 45/32
Measure 3 Staff 1 incomplete. Expected: 12/8; Found: 44/32
Measure 21 Staff 1 incomplete. Expected: 12/8; Found: 45/32
Measure 22 Staff 1 incomplete. Expected: 12/8; Found: 44/32
I've been able to fix 2 of those by swapping voie 1 and 2 twice, but 2 more corruptions stayed, no matter what I tried, see attached
Hey thanks Jo-Jo schmitz for looking those over, but i need a little clarification.
In order to fix the corruption, 1) I first swap voice 1 with voice 2 and then how do i swap them back...is by hitting undo? (OR am I not suppose to swap them back?)
2)How do i delete the full measure rest in voice two?
3) How do i save my corrections (just save or do i have to "Save as"- something new?)
Don't worry about the problem page, it was just to show that there was a problem..
thanks,
In general, the easiest way to get rid of corruption in known specific measures is to delete those measure entirely, insert new, clean, blank measures in their place, and rewrite the music in them from scratch (i.e. do NOT copy and paste into them from the old corrupted measures).
I tried to do that with your original score, but I was unable to touch m.21 without the program crashing every time. You were apparently able to re-work that measure (you're using a later version of 2.0 than I am) to get rid of that 32nd rest, but in the 'problem' score you posted later, there were additional corrupted measures, two of which I couldn't touch either.
If you still have your orignal score and can select that corrupted measure without crashing the program, I suggest you select it, hit CTL+DEL to get rid of it entirely, and then type INSERT to replace it with a new, clean measure. Then re-write the measure manually and save under a new name. Let us know how that works.
No unfortunately every time I ctrl del the measure and try to insert a clean one it crashes.
QUESTION:, just to be sure I know this right, there are 32 32nds in 12/8 time right? and 24 sixteenths in 12/8 time right?... I feel like a third grader again!
It is 48/32, very simple math
I have succeeded in deleting m.21 in your original score by isolating it on a system by itself, and then deleting the entire system. It was linked to m.20 by a tie; I deleted that first. Here is the repaired score; all you have to do is re-write the music in that empty measure.
Lover_Man uncorrupted missing m21.mscz
FWIW, though, we'd still like to know how this happened in the first place. You said it happened when you removed a dot, but I can't find any way to do that in the first place. Can you provide precise steps to reproduce the problem, starting from an empty score in 12/8?
Hi Marc,
I figured out how I did it. If you start out with a whole rest in a 12/8 bar then. 2) break it into quarter rest. Sometimes you will see a whole rest still in the bar on the back side. 3) I some how put the cursor on the whole rest and broke that down to sixteenths or 32nds and add a dot and I think you just got the recipe for a mess. The program was not working properly for my random values I was assigning to the bar. When I first started out I wasn't noticing the whole rest was there. (I thought it was a half)
After trying numerous times to recreate the mistake, I can not. the program figured out my habits (yes, thank you)
But if you play around with dots and 32nd notes tied to longer notes, then dot some of the longer notes and then take the dot away and lose track of how many beats you have in the measure you should be able to recreate it.
thanks everyone for helping me figure the problem out and helping solve it. I broke measure 21 down into continuing smaller rest until you could clearly see the divisions, then I saved the file and now no more corrupt file. Now I'm putting the notes back in and watching the subdivisions as I do it (plus now that I now what they are). I've never written anything down to 32nd divisions being a jazz guy. THIS program lets me hear what it sounds like to write that, and that's cool!