Baritone Sax problem
Hi;
For some reason, when I write for baritone sax, I have to transpose everything down two whole notes because it doesn't write properly to the score like all the other instruments with which I have worked to date. Suggestions?
TIA,
Beno
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Can you post an example of what you are talking about and describe the steps to reproduce the problem? I write for baritone saxophone as well and have never seen that particular behavior, although I did notice one odd behavior with respect to handling of accidentals that I reported a few months back.
In reply to Can you post an example of by Marc Sabatella
It is very simple. If I type "a" to enter that note, it enters "f" instead, etc.
In reply to It is very simple. If I type by beno
Have you got concert pitch turned off?
In reply to Have you got concert pitch by ChurchOrganist
I never turned it on. Furthermore, it affects no other instrument than baritone sax.
Beno
In reply to I never turned it on. by beno
When we talk about instructions to reproduce something, we mean, instructions that anyone could follow and get the same result. I have never seen the problem you describe, so there must be something more to it. Does it affect all scores you create for baritone sax or just one? Could you post an example? Are you using a customized instruments.xml? Have you changed the clef from the default, or added or deleted key signatures? Was the score created from scratch or using a template? Etc.
Also, say what MuseScore version and OS.
In reply to When we talk about by Marc Sabatella
This is probably a problem specific to my computer. I also have problems that nobody else has when programming in Flash/AS3, who knows why. Yes, scoring from scratch, only affects baritone sax in all scores, no customized instruments, haven't changed the cleft or added/deleted key sigs (although I noticed on the particular piece on which I am working that somehow a key sig got added that I didn't add). OS == OSX Snow Leopard (Mac). Notice in the example it also added the key sig.
TIA,
Beno
In reply to This is probably a problem by beno
It still isn't clear *exactly* what you are doing. this is what I tried:
1. click first measure of baritone sax part to select it
2. hit Delet to remove current contents
3. click it again
4. press N to enter note entry mode
5. Press 4, E on my computer keyboard
Result: an eighth note E appears on the staff, just as I expected.
I also tried adding a new measure, and adding an eighth note "E" there, and again, same result.
If oyu follow these exact steps, do you see something different? Or are you doing something different?
Once thing that occurs to me - if you are entering pitches on a MIDI keybaord rather than the computer keyboard, I would fully expect that *playing* an A would cause an F to appear (F#, actually, because of the key signature), because that's how the baritone saxophone transposes. Are you perhaps unaware of the concept of transposing for baritone saxophone?
In reply to This is probably a problem by beno
As I thought
You have concert pitch turned off
Consequnetly MuseScore is automagically transposing the notes for you to fit an Eb transposing instrument by writing them a minor 3rd down.
Jeeze don't they teach you anythng in music classes these days???
Goto the Notes menu and click Concert Pitch
The Baritone Sax will revert to normal behaviour
All the other instruments you are writing for are non-transposing.
In reply to As I thoughtYou have concert by ChurchOrganist
It must have done this on its own. Thanks, that appears to have solved the problem! *However*, now it put everything in a treble clef instead of a bass clef which will drive the saxophonist nuts! Please advise :)
TIA,
Beno
In reply to It must have done this on its by beno
I think you are confused baout how bariotne saxophone music is written. It is always written in treble clef, transposed an octave an a major sixth spabive where ou intend to sound, in a key signature with three more sharps (or three fewer flats) than concert pitch. In other words, exactly the way MuseScore is doing it. If you don't wish to enter the notes for the baritone sax the way they will actually be read (transposed as I described), then you can switch to Concert Pitch temporarily while entering the notes, and maybe change the clef to bass clef while you enter the notes, but you must turn Concert pitch back off and switch the clef back to treble clef before generating the parts or printing.