OT: More Notation Questions
Hi;
I have the following arrangement:
intro (no repeat)
main part (to be repeated)
main part (again)
another part
main part (again)
How do I work the repeat mechanisms to score this? I'm thrown here by the "main part" being repeated before I go to "another part", then having to go back and repeat the "main part" again.
TIA,
Beno
PS Is it permissible in "another part" to have a repeat? Because I repeat 8 bars, constituting the entire 16 bars of "another part".
Comments
How is this different from http://musescore.org/en/node/16937?
Place the section to be repeated between the usual repeat barlines ( ||: and :|| ).
Right-click on the last measure in the repeated section, choose Measure Properties and increase the 'repeat count' to 3.
Do a DS al Fine to place the main section one last time.
In reply to More repeats by underquark
To quickly reply to Jojo, the difference is the last repeat of the main section. Look carefully and you'll see that. It adds a new wrinkle and doesn't behave the same way, hence the new question.
To underquark (what a handle lol!), I think you also misunderstood. I wanted to repeat just once (that is, play the repeated section twice), *then* play "another part" and *then* repeat the repeated section one last time. Your example didn't do that.
Also, I realized I forgot an instrumental I'd just added. So here's the new sequence:
intro (not repeated)
main part (to be repeated)
instrumental (not repeated)
main part (first repeat)
another part (not repeated)
main part (second repeat)
I tried adding voltas for the instrumental and "another part" but it just went straight into the repeat of the main section. Please advise.
TIA,
Beno y sus abejas ;)
In reply to To quickly reply to Jojo, the by beno
Intro
Segno Sign at beginning of main part
Main part with To Coda sign at end
Instrumental with a DS al Coda at the end
Coda:
Another Part
Copy the Main Part here (makes navigation simpler)
In reply to Possibly by Zoots
I've said that music writers are a lot like computer programmers. The navigation contains things like Do This and If this condition is met, Jump to Location X, Repeat 2 times, etc.
There are a number of options in scoring that can be used but like the computer program if they get too clever they make interpreting what should happen difficult. The first goal should be to make the score easy to read and follow. Having a repeated passage actually printed out as a separate entity is not a failure! In the days of hand copying there was an advantage to minimizing the amount of writing but computer copy/paste removes this advantage. Of course, a need to reduce the physical size of the piece can be a page size constraint such as fittingt in a flip-folder for a marching band.
In reply to Another Comment on Navigation by Zoots
What an excellent reply! Thanks!
Beno
In reply to Another Comment on Navigation by Zoots
Very true. Road map issues are the biggest source of "train wrecks" in live performance, in my experience (followed closely by drifting off and losing track while counting long multimeasure rests). On the other hand, there's a sense in which if a section is repeated exactly, it can be helpful to know it's repeated exactly and not have to read it twice, and there's also a sense that shorter is better than longer (to a point). Finding the right balance is much more an art than a science.
So my overall resposne to these questions is: rather than asking how to notate some specific road map, the right question to be asking is, where can I learn how these things work so I figure out how they work, and how can I get a good feel for the tradeoffs involved in using road map symbols rather than writing things out? The best answer I know is, read a book to learn how the symbols work, and gain years of first hand experience on the bandstand to gain a sense of how to use them most effective. Or, take lessons with someone else who has been through that and let them guide you.