Dynamics

• Mar 27, 2017 - 09:03

Is it possible to change the velocity of an entire line without affecting the other line, specifically piano bass and treble. Need treble line to be louder than bass line. Bass is overpowering treble in the piece I'm currently working on.. To my knowledge adding a dynamic marking affects both lines without exception. Any suggestions?


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If you are referring to the two staves of a piano part, it is true that dynamics normally affect both, and that you can override this using the Inspector. but you should also consider whether this really makes musical sense to write it that way. Published music is not normally done that way, only in specific cases where the player wouldn't figure out for himself to play the melody louder. So if you are just trying to get MuseScore to do what a human musician would have done naturally - play the melody louder - I would say this is *not* a good idea to do with dynamic markings. That would just confuse a human musician. If it is important to you to get a more realistic computer playback, instead use the Inspector to alter the velocities, selecting the notes you want louder entering positive number for velocity offset. Something around 10 would be a good start.

In reply to by Marc Sabatella

I appreciate all the replies to my question, including yours, Mr. Sabatella. But, sir, this is the second time you've insulted me with your reply. I wouldn't allow any dynamic markings to remain on a piece I publish that would confuse either the player or the listener, (unless it was an oversight) any more than I would allow tempo text markings to remain on one of my published pieces, markings which those even vaguely familiar with Musescore are aware that are of paramount importance in creating an authentic playback of any piece. I am fully aware that music is not published without unnecessary dynamic markings plastered all over the page - I was asking a purely technical question pertaining to Musescore and you knew all that - but you couldn't resist the urge to patronize me by giving me a totally unnecessary theory lesson before answering the question. Do me a favor, sir - save it for your students at the Lamont school. I have a degree already, so I don't need a theory professor. Next time I submit a question, please either suppress your desire to patronize me, or don't reply at all. It appears others are able and willing to help me without feeling the need to be condescending...

In reply to by Escherfan

I'm sorry you felt my reply was condescending. It wasn't meant to be. We have no way of knowing what level of knowledge people have when they ask questions here, or what expectations they might have abut how the computer-generated playback might differ from real human playback. So I try to answer as completely as possible for the benefit of people who might appreciate the extra information. I am just trying to be as helpful as possible; I am sorry you took it that as being patronizing.

In reply to by Marc Sabatella

If your comment was not meant in the way I interpreted it, please accept my sincerest apologies. My comments were themselves blunt and insulting. It was a knee-jerk reaction to your reply at that moment. My question was purely technical and not of a theoretical nature, and I felt right then that I was being patronized. You clearly possess knowledge of the program that far surpasses my own, and I appreciate the help. Thank you for the assistance you did provide and again, please accept my apology. I won't take any of your comments to be condescending again. As musicians, we should be a tight-knit community, not arguing amongst ourselves (that was directed toward myself). Music reigns supreme...

Sometimes a composer will deliberately ask for different dynamics for Left Hand and Right Hand of a piano grand staff. This example is from Rootham Op.88 "Suite for Pianoforte" (1933). See the penultimate bar at the change of key signature:
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(manuscript: by permission of the Master & Fellows of St John's College, Cambridge)

In reply to by DanielR

Because the melody is transferred to the left-hand, the musician will do it automatically.
The composer wrote this as an informative. (If an inexperienced person plays it, he will understand how to do it)
"Non-legato" is actually enough.

But in order to comply, it can be written exactly as it is in the original copy.

PS:
In music schools: If the student is working under the supervision of a teacher, he will receive lots of warnings and information not written to the document he reads. And it will play accordingly. And eventually the music he plays is not entirely visible in the note.

In reply to by Ziya Mete Demircan

"Because the melody is transferred to the left-hand, the musician will do it automatically."

I have to agree with you, because this work was dedicated to a family friend who was an amateur pianist (not a professional). And the score seems to be a "fair copy" specially written out neatly for the dedicatee.

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