2 different clef on the same beat
Hi everyone,
I found something very interesting and I don't know how to manage it. This is a score of Béla Bartok. We have on each staff 2 voices and on the same beat 2 different clef. If you have an idea how to proceed, you are welcome!
Thanks for helping.
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You can add a clef anywhere in a measures.
Method 1: select the note or rest immediately after where the clef goes and double click the clef in the palette.
Method 2: Drag the clef to the spot in the measure where you want it, the next rest or note will turn blue when it's in the correct spot.
The clef treble clef in the final measure of the right hand will need to be added from the master palette (press z to see it) after you add a normal treble clef and make it invisible (select it and press v).
Edit: the clefs you are showing mostly need to be in voice 2. Give me a few minutes to test the above instructions.
It worked exactly as I described. The treble clef in the second measure is added to voice 1, no need to use a second voice. I created the snippet of the song in 3/4, added a 3/4 to the second measure, deleted the 3/4 from the first measure and changed the actual duration of measure 1 to 2/4. Actual duration is found by right clicking on the staff, selecting measure properties. Since this is probably the last line of a longer song, you shouldn't need to delete a time signature from the first measure.
On my system, the treble clef added from the master palette is too big. I'm not sure how to make it smaller. An alternative way to add the clef is to enter it as staff text - press ctrl+t, then F2 to bring up the special characters palette, chose the musical symbols tab, clefs and the clef. You can then select the clef and increase the font size as with any other text. The clef looks a little different on my system but seems to be the best option.
In reply to It worked exactly as I… by mike320
Hi Mike,
thanks for your idea. I've already done it in this way but the problem is that when I'm playing the score the notes are wrong! It's quite understood that symbols are only pictures.
My issue is that I want the playback right. :)
In reply to Hi Mike,… by PoorFrog
I now see the problem. When I looked at the score, it looked like the bass started on the second beat, I now realize it starts on the first beat! Ouch! Back to the old drawing board.
Here's a picture from MuseScore
![Bartok.png]( "Bartok.png")
The actual file is attached below.
Here is what I did. On the tied notes in the last 2 measures I selected fix to line and put the appropriate number in for each. I changed the horizontal offset to move them to the beginning of the measure. I only did this is the next to last measure, I just realized I didn't fix the last measures horizontal positions. I changed the bass clef's horizontal position. I also changed the voice 2 notes horizontal offsets. I also had to change the horizontal offsets of the dots on the dotted notes. I had to zoom in to see them after the ties were added.
You will need to look at all the numbers on the moved items to see how far I moved each. The articulations I didn't enter should move with the proper notes they are attached to. Be aware that on notes I always changed the offsets for the chord not the element or segment.
You will also have to add the treble clef to the last note using staff text as in my previous post.
Let me know if there are any further questions.