Fingering text position with two-voices versus one
Is there an 'automatic' way to get fingering to be placed as it is when there's only one voice while utilizing two voices? Can't seem to get it to work.
Here's an example:
First measure is one voice, second has two voices. The fingering with two-voices shown no longer avoids the staff:
Fingering is also now not centered if using half/quarter notes unlike with one-voice staff:
This is more of a burden when using more than two finger-texts, like instead of:
You get:
Comments
To reiterate the issue: here's a quick gif showing the change of fingering position after voice-2 has been introduced. It feels like it's 'by design' but doesn't make sense, and would like to know if this is a known bug or is actually the way the developers want it to be. Gould, on the little passage about fingering for keyboard instruments, seems to follow how MS deals with fingering normally when there's only one voice, even though in Gould's example there are two voices employed:
In reply to To reiterate the issue: here… by worldwideweary
It is indeed by design, this was the placement agreed upon by consensus after several years of back and forth. It's a pretty good way to keep the middle of the grand staff clear, I think that's the main reason people seemed to like this. We only do it for single unbeamed notes, BTW - chords or beams cause us to fall back to the usual method.
In principle, it would be simple enough to add a checkbox to the Inspector to disable this optimization. But, there's a couple of ways you could hack it now. Oe is to take advantage of the fact we don't do this chords_ add an invisible unison to make it a chord. Or, use the String Number style (after customizing it to remove the frame). String numbers use the same algorithm as piano fingerings in other respects.
In reply to It is indeed by design, this… by Marc Sabatella
Thanks Marc for the information + workarounds.
IMO, FWIW, the placement looks nice in itself, but depending on the context of the notation, it begins to look a little awkward when having a few measures of one voice, and then a few measures with two voices back and forth so that the fingering placements aren't uniform--even if the musical notation itself is similar.