Incorrect Harmonica Range
Reported version
3.3
Type
Functional
Frequency
Once
Severity
S4 - Minor
Reproducibility
Always
Status
closed
Regression
No
Workaround
Yes
Project
The range for "Harmonica" is incorrect with a caveat.
The upper range of ALL chromatic harmonicas in C is D7.
The lower range of 3 octave (12 hole) chromatic harmonicas in C is C4
The lower range of 4 octave (16 hole) chromatic harmonicas is C3
There is also a 3.5 octave (14 hole) harmonics with a lower range of G3
I don't know if this justifies the creation of three separate instruments, I'll leave that up to you.
Fix version
3.5.0
Comments
Those harmonicas all exist already, no need for and new entries.
The 10 hole C diatonic harmonica may need its upper range fixed from C7 to D7, lower range is set to C4, I guess than needs fixing, probably to G4?
The 12 hole C chromatic harmonica needs its upper ranged fixed from C7 to D7, lower range is set correctly to C4 already.
The 14 hole C chromatic harmonica needs its upper ranged fixed from C7 to D7, lower range is set correctly to G3 already.
The 16 hole C chromatic harmonica needs its upper ranged fixed from C7 to D7, lower range is set correctly to C3 already.
The generic Harmonica entry is set to C4-C7 for amateur and professional, maybe set that to the 12 hole settings for amateur (C4-D7) and to the 16 hole settings for professional (C3-D7)? Or would it need to cover the range of all harmonicas MuseScore offers?
I see one harmonica (3 octaves) with an incorrect range. (C4 - C7)
What am I missing?
In the add instruments dialog type "harmonica" into the search filed, there are many more, just not in the Common" set
In reply to In the add instruments… by Jojo-Schmitz
I apologize for not realizing there was other instruments to choose from. Thanks for the enlightenment!!
As far as changes needed:
The 12 hole, 14 hole & 16 hole Key of C chromatic harmonica need to have the upper range changed to D7.
The 12 hole Tenor C Chromatic harmonica needs to have the upper range changed to D6.
The 12 hole G chromatic harmonica needs to have the upper register changed to A6.
There are three bass harmonicas listed. That list should be revised to have the following:
The Hohner 2 octave bass which has a range from E2 to E4.
The Hohner 2.5 octave bass which has a range from E2 to C4.
The Huang Bass which has a range from E2 to F4.
Thanks again, I'll fix my template to reflect my new found knowledge!
Still remains the question what to do with the generic harmonica and what to do to the 10 hole C diatonic harmonica?
In reply to Still remains the question… by Jojo-Schmitz
The range of a 10 hole C diatonic harmonica is C4 to C7.
As a point of reference, diatonic harmonicas with the exception of harmonicas designated as "High" or "Low" center on the 3rd or 4th octave as the lowest note so for example, a normal C diatonic harmonica starts at C4, while a G, A, Ab, B or Bb begin below C4 so their lowest notes are A3 to Bb3.
A "High" G, A or Ab diatonic harmonica begins on A4, G4 or Ab4. In most cases HIGH versions of diatonic harmonicas are only available in G, Ab & A
Conversely, diatonic harmonicas in the key of C through F# have C4 - F#4 as their lowest note UNLESS they are designated as LOW versions, in which case they would have C3 - F#3 as their lowest note. In most cases LOW diatonic harmonicas are only available in D, E, F & F#.
In all cases the upper range is the tonic of the key the harmonica is tuned in, 3 octaves above the lowest note or octaves 3 - 6 or 4 - 7.
The generic harmonic is open to interpretation. In today world it would most likely be a 10 hole diatonic harmonica however, being "diatonic" opens up an entirely different can of worms.
In my opinion it should be a 12 hole chromatic (C4 - C7) as that is the harmonica most familiar to harmonica players and the only chromatic harmonica available in keys other than C.
Sure about The Hohner 2.5 octave bass which has a range from E2 to C4. ?
That's only be 1.5 octave as far as I can tell? Isn't that rather C5? Or is it E1 for (any of) those 3 bass harmonicas?
I'm having a PR almost ready...
BTW: the sound for (all) harmonicas stops at C7 already, so there is an issue with the soundfont too I guess, needs to go up to at least G7 as far as I can tell. It goes down much further though, as far as I can tell (it gets very faint down there, probably bad quality of my seakers/sound system) all way down to C-1, the lowest possible note
In reply to Sure about The Hohner 2.5… by Jojo-Schmitz
MY mistake, the Hohner 2.5 Octave Bass is E2 to C5.
None of the bass harmonica go down to E1.
OK, that's what I thought. see https://github.com/musescore/MuseScore/pull/5601
Changes:
Anything else needed?
No, nothing else needed that I am aware of.
Thank you so much for addressing this minor issue!
Fixed in branch master, commit 3e40e9b76a
_fix #299545: Incorrect Harmonicas Ranges
resolves https://musescore.org/en/node/299545_
Fixed in branch master, commit 90c07595b3
_Merge pull request #5601 from Jojo-Schmitz/harmonicas-ranges
fix #299545: Incorrect Harmonicas Ranges_
In reply to BTW: the sound for (all)… by Jojo-Schmitz
I have extended the upper range of the harmonica to C8 in the upcoming version 0.1.9 of the SoundFont.
What harmonica has a range to C8?
In reply to What harmonica has a range… by HuffNPuff
None that I'm aware of, but the SoundFont will now be able to handle up to C8 for whatever dubious purposes people might have for them ;)
In reply to What harmonica has a range… by HuffNPuff
>What harmonica has a range to C8?
If the notes will not sound very strangely, it is normal for the instruments to have a coverage range of #21(A0) and #108(C8). (If its possible) It would be good to hear every note in the coverage area of the Pianoforte instrument.
The coverage area on the keyboard (or soundfont) and the usable area of the instrument are not the same.
It is the responsibility of the composer or arranger to keep notes in the usable space.
Automatically closed -- issue fixed for 2 weeks with no activity.
In reply to I have extended the upper… by s.chriscollins
I have finished version 0.1.9 of the SoundFont, featuring an extended range in the synthesizer for the harmonica. You can download the SoundFont here. Here is the HQ version (better ensemble strings).
Actually that version hasn't yet made it into MuseScore, so marking it "PR created", and home that the version 0.2 makes it into MuseScore 3.5
Relates to #305424: [EPIC] MuseScore General (HQ) Soundfont issues
Automatically closed -- issue fixed for 2 weeks with no activity.