How do I delete unwanted earlier editions of parts to my orchestral score?
I have made corrections a number of times to my score, and created new parts each time. Now these continue to show up even with the final edition. How do I cleanly create the new parts to the final score without these earlier parts still showing up as tabs with the score?
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It's not clear why you created new parts, normally you'd just edit the score and the parts would update automatically. But if you created new parts anyhow, you would indeed have multiple copies of each part, and that's unnecessary. So just go back to File / Parts - and select a part you want to remove and hit Delete. Actully, I recommend you the topmost parts and then just hit Delete repeatedly until they are all gone, then generate a fresh new set just in case anything strange happened as a result of having all those unnecessary duplicates. And then in the future, just remember - you only need to generate parts once.
In reply to It's not clear why you… by Marc Sabatella
Marc,
I feel that I did exactly as instructed, and the parts did indeed disappear from the tabs next to the score. However, when I created new parts, ALL those same old parts were created, and they were not the final edits. Aargh! I'm still doing something wrong obviously.
Could this be due to how I saved several versions that I still have? When I thought I had a "finished" version, I would save it with the name, or with the name followed by the revision number -- such as Snowy Night, Snowy Night R, Snowy Night RA, Snowy Night, RB, etc. Do these earlier versions need to be deleted?
I'm definitely getting interested in your online course so I won't need to bother you anymore. :)
Ron Hill
In reply to Marc, I feel that I did… by ronaldwilliamhill
No previous versions of files will interfere with others, so you can save as many revisions as you want, each is separate from the rest.
In this version, I see one part for each instrument as I expect. Each part reflects the score as far as I can tell. Are you saying there is some measure of some part where the part is not the same as the score? Also, if I make an edit to the score, that edit is instantly reflected in the part. Are you saying there is some particular edit you are trying to make in this score that is not reflected in the part? It's deliberate that some changes are not reflected in the part - formatting changes that would generally need to be handled differently in the score vs parts. Maybe that's what you are noticing?
In reply to Marc, I feel that I did… by ronaldwilliamhill
You wrote:
* However, when I created new parts, ALL those same old parts were created and they were not the final edits.*
When you delete parts, the parts tabs are removed from the score (as you have noticed).
Then, when you generate the parts again, they are created anew, so they are not truly the same old parts.
They are brand new, without any edits, final or otherwise, that you may have previously applied.
In reply to You wrote: * However, when I… by Jm6stringer
I think I have seen what the OP is talking about. Someone posted a score for orchestra that had three sets of parts in the tabs.
In reply to I think I have seen what the… by bobjp
That's certainly possible to do and not a bug. If you keep pressing the "All Parts" button, MuseScore will happily generate new copies of the parts, and if you don't delete the old ones, now you will have multiple sets. But, they will all be in sync - the parts will always reflect what's in the score. So not what is being described here at all.
I think maybe I know what is happening. I suspect the OP generated parts, made some formatting changes there - reshaping slurs, moving a rehearsal mark to the left here and there, adding system breaks, etc - and then made the mistake of deleting the parts and generating new ones. Unfortunately deleting the parts does indeed throw away the formatting you applied. You should only delete parts if starting over is actually your goal. Normally there would never be a need to delete parts after having generated them.
In reply to That's certainly possible to… by Marc Sabatella
Hmm. Well, thanks anyway. Yes, I did delete ALL parts in this process, so if my slurring changes in the final version have not been kept in the parts, then those individual parts may need to be done again individually. I wonder why the same version (not the latest) keeps being produced each time I try to create the parts now?
Well, at least I know what needs to be done now...and how to do it from here on out. Thank you.
Ron
In reply to Hmm. Well, thanks anyway. … by ronaldwilliamhill
It's still not at all clear what you mean. You score looks perfect to me. The parts reflect the score exactly as they should. There is nothing out of date at all, as far as I can tell. Unless, again, if what you really mean is, the stuff you deleted (like manual adjustments to formatting) didn't come back after generating new parts. Again, that's completely normal and correct, it's why you aren't supposed to delete parts without reason. Now that you have the parts, don't delete them again, and all should be fine.
In reply to It's still not at all clear… by Marc Sabatella
Here is the sequence: Score was written and parts were created and printed as pdf's. Later, the score was updated with proper slurring, especially in the strings. The changes were saved. But ever since, the parts have never duplicated the resultant changes written in the score. I don't consider that is completely normal and correct.
Have you compared the parts to the score? When I compare what I see here, there are a tremendous number of changes in the score (correct) -- articulations, especially slurs, which do not show up in the parts created. Just take the first few measures of both flute parts and compare to the score. I don't consider changing the slurs a change in formatting, correct? Wouldn't this be a bug if it won't create parts as written in the score that is being worked on, whether the earlier set of parts had been deleted or not?
I'm sorry if my frustration shows here, but I have spent hours making certain the score is correct, and now I have to add the corrections individually to each part as well. I appreciate your interest in this, Marc, but I don't want to take any more of your time, so I will just get to work to handle what needs to be handled. If you have any other ideas, let me know.
In reply to Here is the sequence: Score… by ronaldwilliamhill
I did compare parts to score, but not every single measure of every single part. So thanks for telling us where to look. Now that you do, I see exactly what the problem is.
The problem is that you edited the slurs incorrectly in the score. Instead of actually setting the slur to cover all the notes of the first measure, you set the slur to only cover the first three notes, then you dragged the length of the slur to appear to cover the rest. I can see this clearly by double-clicking the score, and then the dotted line from the end handle clearly shows it attached to the third note. It's important with slurs and other lines to not simply change their length, because the lengths will differ between score and parts. You need to actually tell MuseScore which notes to cover. EIther by first selecting the notes then adding the slur (by pressing "S" or clicking the icon in the palette), or using Shift+Left/Right to extend the slur afterwards. See the Handbook under Slurs, also Lines, for more info.
So yes, what you did to the slur in the first measure was a formatting change only - fine-tining the length of the slur but still leaving it connected to only the first three notes. And that's exactly what the part shows - the slur attached to the first three notes only.
So unfortunately, you will need to reset all those slurs in the score - best to right-click one, Select / All Similar Elements, then hit Ctrl+R - then redo them correctly. The lesson for next time is, add them correctly to begin with and all goes well, you won't need to adjust them at all.
In reply to I did compare parts to score… by Marc Sabatella
Yes, so that's what the problem was all along! THANK YOU. This makes total sense now. I started to see this when I went back to each part and noticed that when I connected to a final note, it adjusted itself quite well. Honestly, I never knew there was a correct way to add a slur before. duuhh... I'm going to practice that. ( I'm also going to buy your online course! There must be a ton of other things I don't know as well.)
BTW, this is just the first of a set of 8 pieces--a song cycle for 2 singers and orchestra -- that was premiered at the end of February of this year. Man, was I lucky with the timing! It was very well received, although a great number of edits were done by hand, and with my extra "covidtime" I wanted to get it spiffed up for export.
Thanks for sticking with me until the right "why" was found.
RWH
In reply to Yes, so that's what the… by ronaldwilliamhill
Glad we got to the bottom of it, and congrats on the premiere!