Glitch in rhythm playback of alpa 3.5?
Hello,
I have punched in a trombone score to seperate my voice from other trombone voices in the same system to get a clearer view of what I have to play. When I listen to the playback I get confused. I still got some trouble to catch the correct rhythm but I'm quite sure that the playback in measure 42 counts the rest too short.
I did not notice a deviation on any other measure.
I've prooved this finding with mp3 and ogg export, too but I did not manage to attatch a sound file to my posting. When trying to add mp3 I got an error message telling that ogg should be possible. When trying to add ogg nothing happens. Maybe it's my browser's fault but I hope someone will reproduce my finding.
OS: Windows 10 (10.0), Arch.: x86_64, MuseScore version (64-bit): 3.5.0.11614, revision: 1ee2fe3
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Comments
I don't hear anything wrong on my system.
In reply to I don't hear anything wrong… by Marc Sabatella
Marc, I was afraid that this would happen. I just have edited my post with the following addition:
I've prooved this finding with mp3 and ogg export, too but I did not manage to attatch a sound file to my posting. When trying to add mp3 I got an error message telling that ogg should be possible. When trying to add ogg nothing happens. Maybe it's my browser's fault but I hope someone will reproduce my finding.
And I forgot to mention, that this only occurs in measure 42 but I'd added a picture showing the questionable section.
I'm still sure that there is something wrong, maybe not noticeable on all sytems.
In reply to Marc, I was afraid that this… by SlyDr
I listed to bar 42 specifically. You can't attach audio here but you can upload to Google Drive, Dropbox, or the like, and attach a link. Might be able to ZIP it and upload here.
In reply to I listed to bar 42… by Marc Sabatella
Seems to work with zip file.
I always miss one beat rest in measure 42 before the flat a is played back and I have never noticed such effect in the last years using Musescore 1, 2 and 3.
In reply to seems to work with zip file by SlyDr
The file sounds perfectly correct to me. There is only an eighth rest at the beginning of measure 42, not sure what "one beat rest" you could be missing.
In reply to The file sounds perfectly… by Marc Sabatella
Measure 42 begins with a half measure rest followed by a 1/8 rest. See graphic snippet attached to my initial posting.
I‘m sure th playback shortens the test but I‘m not sure we are looking at the same measure.
In reply to Measure 42 begins with a… by SlyDr
Unfortunately the image you showed has a transparent background and is difficult for me to see. Also the measure numbers are positioned strangely making it hard to be sure. But I checked and double checked, measure 42 begins with an eight rest only. There's a half rest at the end of the previous bar, but that is definitely played correctly. I'm guessing you are making the common mistake of trying to put an extra beat in that measure by waiting to long to count "3" after that last eighth note - a common mistake for lines ending with a syncopated eighth note.
In reply to Measure 42 begins with a… by SlyDr
To be absolutely sure, here is measure 42:
In reply to To be absolutely sure, here… by Marc Sabatella
Marc, thank you for keeping in touch. Now we are comming to an explanation.
1. When I made the initial snapshot It looked quite different. (You told that it does not display correctly. I have used the tool that Musescore provides - so now I will resend the same picture in a differnt format and measure 42 alone, using Window's snipping tool).
2. When I looked into the unchanged score this morning, it appeared that it looks exactly like in your picture.
So I'm comming to the conclusion that there is a mixture of two reasons. First it has to be simply a typo when I typed in the score. But there also must have been some sort of redraw artefact making it look as If there was an additional rest. This also explains the somehow unusual spacing in the measure (see attached picture).
On my computer there is nothing odd with thedisplay of measure numbers, by the way.
How do you manage to integrate your picture into the discussion text? When I try to paste from clipboard nothing happens, so I attached the pictures, wich does communicate as good as an integrated picture does.
Next time I will save and reopen a score before I'm going to bother you folks at the forum who are doing a phantastic job. I have never used a program having that kind of swift, patient and competent support. That does not happen even with commercial products.
In reply to Marc, thank you for keeping… by SlyDr
Ah, yes, that looks different indeed. It looks like either a corrupt measure, or somehow the notes and rests got dragged out of position. So there does seem to be a problem somewhere, but it's not totally clear what is happening.
The measure numbers for me are way high above the staff when I load this score in 3.5 Beta:
I believe this is a bug, because they look normal in 3.4.2. I will look into this.
To include an image within text, click the Insert button after attaching the file. You'll see it adds the special markup code direct to your comment as the point where the cursor is.
In reply to Ah, yes, that looks… by Marc Sabatella
Regarding the measure number position, I've confirmed it to be a bug in 3.5 Alpha & Beta, see #306603: Measure number vertical offset interpreted incorrectly