Flauto d'amore

• May 18, 2021 - 00:29

I suggest including the flauto d'amore (flute d'amour) in the the list of instruments. There has been renewed interest in this instrument in recent years.

Comments

Jojo-Schmitz

• May 18, 2021 - 07:57

Details needed, clef, transpositioning, professional and amateur range, sould (closest match from the sounds in a GM soundfont), long and short instrument name.

jcorelis

• May 18, 2021 - 15:25

Since I don't play the instrument myself, I can't knowledgeably answer those questions. If anyone wants to implement this, it would be best to find some players to consult if possible. There is also a good amount of information available on the internet, including:

https://www.flautodamore.com/

http://sankyoflute.com/e/catalog/damore.html

https://nmbx.newmusicusa.org/the-flauto-damore-project-a-new-language-f…

https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/500897

Maybe someone else reading this post can contribute more information, if they have direct experience of this instrument.

Jojo-Schmitz

• May 18, 2021 - 16:32

Only Information I can gather from those pages is that it transposes down a third. By far not sufficient to add it to MuseScore

jcorelis

• May 18, 2021 - 16:55

Maybe some of the people listed on those sites might be willing to work with a MuseScore developer on this. I'm uncertain --- maybe they'd not like the idea of people writing electronic flauto d'amore scores instead of buying and playing the instrument. On the other hand, if it were presented to them as a way of encouraging more composers to write for the instrument, they might consider it in their interest to help.

Dylan Nicholson1

• May 20, 2021 - 20:39

Pretty sure there are A flat A and even B flat variants.
But surely it's not hard to just create this yourself without needing to be built in? There's likely "renewed interest" in 100s of previously neglected instruments but little point providing out-of-the-box support unless there's likely to be multiple users regularly wanting to score for it with MuseScore.

jcorelis

• May 20, 2021 - 23:32

But there's not likely to be multiple users regularly wanting to score for it with MuseScore unless MuseScore provides out-of-the-box support for it.

Dylan Nicholson1

• May 21, 2021 - 00:06

Um, it takes maybe 20 seconds to change the Staff properties for a "Flute" staff to set it up for Flauto d'Amore?

Jojo-Schmitz

• May 21, 2021 - 07:36

Still, without the information I requested above, we can't add it to MuseScore.

kuwitt

• May 21, 2021 - 13:43

Maybe it's helpful, here is a German article with some information: https://www.moeck.com/uploads/tx_moecktables/1983-2.pdf_S._334-342.pdf

kuwitt

• May 21, 2021 - 14:48

Concerning the instrument name, one could follow "Oboe d'amore", in this sense "Flauto d'amore" or "Fl. d'A.".

Jojo-Schmitz

• May 21, 2021 - 15:20

Here's how a 'normal' flute looks:

            <Instrument id="flute">
                  <family>flutes</family>
                  <longName>Flute</longName>
                  <shortName>Fl.</shortName>
                  <description>Standard Concert Flute</description>
                  <musicXMLid>wind.flutes.flute</musicXMLid>
                  <clef>G</clef>
                  <barlineSpan>1</barlineSpan>
                  <aPitchRange>60-93</aPitchRange>
                  <pPitchRange>59-98</pPitchRange>
                  <Channel>
                        <program value="73"/> <!--Flute-->
                  </Channel>
                  <Articulation>
                        <velocity>100</velocity>
                        <gateTime>95</gateTime>
                  </Articulation>
                  <genre>common</genre>
                  <genre>jazz</genre>
                  <genre>orchestra</genre>
                  <genre>popular</genre>
                  <genre>concertband</genre>
                  <genre>marching</genre>
            </Instrument>

We'd need something like this:

            <Instrument id="flute-d'amore">
                  <family>flutes</family>
                  <longName>Flute d'amore</longName>
                  <shortName>Fl. d'a.</shortName>
                  <description>Flute d'amore</description>
                  <musicXMLid>wind.flutes.flute</musicXMLid>
                  <clef>G</clef>
                  <barlineSpan>1</barlineSpan>
                  <aPitchRange>60-93</aPitchRange>
                  <pPitchRange>59-98</pPitchRange>
                  <transposeDiatonic>4</transposeDiatonic>
                  <transposeChromatic>7</transposeChromatic>
                  <Channel>
                        <program value="73"/> <!--Flute-->
                  </Channel>
                  <Articulation>
                        <velocity>100</velocity>
                        <gateTime>95</gateTime>
                  </Articulation>
                  <genre>earlymusic</genre>
            </Instrument>

But first esp. the block

                  <aPitchRange>60-93</aPitchRange>
                  <pPitchRange>59-98</pPitchRange>
                  <transposeDiatonic>4</transposeDiatonic>
                  <transposeChromatic>7</transposeChromatic>

needs to get filled with correct data (assuming this instrument is transposing and uses a normal G-clef)

kuwitt

• May 21, 2021 - 15:44

I just contacted someone from my circle of friends. She studied baroque flute, but I can't say, how far she's familiar with "flauto d'amore" as instrument and will reply.
I never can memorize the difference between diatonic and chromatic transposition. Would it be enough, to know about one of it?
Concerning the amateur and professional range, I never sure, how it's to define.