Ipad full versión YES, AGAIN!!!!
The problem with the MuseScore developers is that they think as developers (coders) not as entrepreneurs.
Develope an ipad full version of musescore not requires developers, require to find inventors to pay the developers. and the musescore team doesn't seems to realize the great potential that the ipad platform holds. As long as your idea is so limited you won't be able to do something truly important for musescore on a platform that demands a lot.
find an investor or launch a support campaign to support the development of musescore for ipad. the future is now.
And one more thing, I would pay (and many many people too) for a full version of musescore on the ipad in a single payment (plus a pro subscription like the ones that exist now).
Keep in mind: iPad, not Microsoft surface.
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This question has been answered so many times. I don't think it has anything to do with any of the things you listed. It has more to do with the developers concentrating on computer OS's. Besides, MuseScore software does not depend on any pro subscription.
Not sure what a Surface has to do with anything. It is not a tablet.
In reply to This question has been… by bobjp
Actually the question has not been satisfactorily answered, only partially in the mind of the developers.
Again you don't understand.
Stick with your idea of developers focused on computer operating systems, as I said they are developers, not entrepreneurs.
And of course it has to do with the things I listed: Find an investor to pay the developers of the ipad version of musescore.
I mentioned the surface because surely someone might suggest swapping the ipad for a surface, that's not the idea.
And finally musescore in some way does depend on the pro subscription.
In reply to This question has been… by bobjp
"Not sure what a Surface has to do with anything. It is not a tablet."
=> ??
In reply to This question has been… by bobjp
The Surface product line includes a number of devices, several of which are tablets.
In reply to The Surface product line… by Marc Sabatella
But the idea is not to change the ipad for a surface. There are more apps involved.
Did you see how Resolve DaVinci for ipad was recently launched, responding to the needs of a potential market in ipad users? That is the potential that musescore is missing. What about other music notation apps? sure, but musescore is losing due to the lack of vision of its developers.
In reply to But the idea is not to… by Telodigotodo
It also costs almost $100. which is not the goal of open source software.
In reply to It also costs almost $100… by bobjp
DaVinci Resolve for ipad its free in the most ot its features.
But take a note: but i would pay for an ipad full version of musescore as already I pay for some extra features in the courrent musescore “reader” for ipad.
In reply to The Surface product line… by Marc Sabatella
In name only. They all are fully functional Windows computers. Unlike my Android tablet.
In reply to In name only. They all are… by bobjp
A Surface Pro is absolutely a tablet by any reasonable definition of the term. Yes, it's a much better device than most tablets in almost every way. But that doesn't make it not a tablet. Any more than MuseScore isn't notation software just because it happens to be better than most :-)
In reply to Not jA Surface Pro is… by Marc Sabatella
I think that the difference here is that the if the OP had a fully functional Mac computer OS on his iPad, then MuseScore would work on it. But he doesn't, and it won't.
My Surface is my work computer. It acts like a computer, not like my Android. Sure, Microsoft calls it a tablet. What do they know :-)
My 8 year old 17 inch laptop has a tablet mode button, which is kind of useless because it isn't a touch screen. Sure I could type on it one letter at a time with the mouse. Never mind that I type with one, maybe two ( if I'm feeling particularly dexterous ), fingers at a time.
And I do have MS4 running on my Surface Go 2.
The direction of MsueScore is not determined by developers individually but by the overall design and product team, who have an excellent understanding of the market. Instead of calling them apathetic and lazy, better to find constructive ways of engaging them on the topic of mobile development vs cloud, which is really where I think most people (myself included) would say the future is.
In reply to The direction of MsueScore… by Marc Sabatella
oh so the product design team is the one who doesn't have the vision and really, they don't understand the market trend and the use of mobile devices, it's a shame because they are being relegated. And I am surprised that you think that the future is only in the cloud and not in mobile devices that in certain places and conditions cannot access the cloud, leaving that function useless while having an app running on a mobile device continues to be usable. As I said, they have a very very very limited idea of what is now and the future, and in that they will miss out on the market and be relegated.
In reply to oh so the product design… by Telodigotodo
How do you know they lack vision? Just because they haven't yet addressed this?
Anyhow, as mentioned, anything is possible if you approach a discussion in a respectful spirit of cooperation. So when you're ready to engage in a respectful discussion, I'm sure your input will be welcomed as they face the incredibly difficult task of sorting out the different pet priorities of different people - some for whom support of a particular tablet is most important, others for whom cloud support is more important, others for whom collaboration is more important, others for whom further improvement playback is more important, others for whom more efficient workflow is more important, etc. it's a complex task, so it's important for all to be able to engage in these discussions respectfully and with empathy and understanding of other users and their needs.
In reply to How do you know they lack… by Marc Sabatella
Saying directly no means disrespect and lack of empathy.
I apologize that you understood it that way.
The suggestion is clear, find an investor who will pay to develop the full version for ipad and then sell it for a single payment. The market is there and only those who realize it and accept the opportunity manage to stay.
It seems to me that the musescore team has other ideas that could leave them out of the game in the short term. Anyway, sad to hear the resistance to change and the opportunities of those who should be at the head of their own project.
In reply to Saying directly no means… by Telodigotodo
Hombre, honestly: you call the Musescore dev team "apathetic and lazy" with limited minds and "resistant to change" - and you are surprised that you are not welcomed with open arms but rather feel misunderstood and treated with a lack of empathy???? What kind of snowflake are you?
Try to come out of your iPad bubble and start treating others with due respect.
In reply to Hombre, honestly: you call… by the_mnbvcx
I can understand that they do not receive direct criticism in the best terms, but we will not deny that a change of mentality and ideas is needed on this issue., If someone says it directly, it is understandable that they feel it as an attack since they have repeatedly been asked for a version of MuseScore for the ipad and their response has always been based on: "it can't because development costs a lot." Well, yes, it costs, so find an investor and then sell the product, but don't hide behind something that is very obvious just because your development path does not fit what your users require of your product.
In reply to I can understand that they… by Telodigotodo
Just how much would you pay for a ipad version of Musescore?
In reply to Just how much would you pay… by graffesmusic
i have been spending on professional ipad apps for several years now, if the app is worth it i have no problem buying it. It's hard to say now how much would be a fair price. maybe a 100-200 dollar range?
In reply to i have been spending on… by Telodigotodo
If you are that passionate about it (but no one else seems to be) then you should find an investor and coders and create the application and reap the rewards. Well done, best of luck, I will support you in any way I can and please let me know if you create a company that i can buy shares in.
In reply to Saying directly no means… by Telodigotodo
There is no resistance to change. It’s just a matter of having a respectful discussion among many users with many different needs to find the most sensible priorities to pursue. Mobile apps are but one of many possibilities that each have strong support among certain groups of users. If you’d like you own personal preferences to be considered, please consider joining a respectful discussion with all other users.
In reply to oh so the product design… by Telodigotodo
Re: Telodigotodo • Dec 28, 2022 - 18:06
"And I am surprised that you think that the future is only in the cloud and not in mobile devices that in certain places and conditions cannot access the cloud."
You misrepresent Marc's comment: he didn't use the word "only" and this makes a big difference. I think that a cloud based solution can incorporate mobile devices as follows:
Musescore.com have already mooted the idea of a cloud version and this would have a larger potential user base, (and therefore revenue stream), than a version limited to iPads. Any device with a web browser could be supported and an offline mode would take care of those times when the cloud is out of reach. We could then access our scores from almost anywhere and it might even be possible to collaborate on scores.
This would be an excellent way of providing a single solution to all mobile users. As an Android user I have absolutely no interest in an iPad version so this would require a completely separate development.
Maybe we won't even need Windows, Linux and macOS versions in the future! All the development expertise could be focused on a single cloud-based solution.