default page view in Musescore 4
When I open a score, by default it opens it in a 200% page view filling the screen. I prefer a 75% view with a smaller screen. How do I make this the default setting in Musescore 4? Thanks
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Although I don't know how it is in MuS4, it could be similar to MuS 3.
There you can set the default value for the zoom factor in 'Edit / Preferences... / Canvas'.
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Also see here: https://musescore.org/en/node/343693
In reply to Although I don't know how it… by HildeK
thanks but it seems to be different in M4. I know because I used M3 and could do just as you suggested. It must be another little glitch in M4.
In reply to thanks but it seems to be… by chinadoll
That setting is still there in the same place as always - Edit / Preferences / Canvas. And the default is 100%, not 200%, again, just as it always has been.
But, one new thing that can cause confusion when changing preferences is the multiple instances. If you change a preference and wish to have it remembered, best to only have one instance open when you make the change, and then quit to be sure it saves. Otherwise, with multiple instances running, preferences set in one instance in one may or may not take precedence over the settings in other instances.
In reply to That setting is still there… by Marc Sabatella
On mine, the default is 200%. It is the most recent M4 available for Mac. I tried what you wrote and if I reopen the file named "A" for instance, it reopens as 75% which is fine. But if I then try to open a second composition ("B") in M4, that one opens in 200% even if I have previously saved it as 75%. So, I close down M4 and open file B alone and set it to 75%, close down M4 and reopen, it opens in 75%. But if I then open file A again, it is now back to 200%. That never happened in M3. Seems like a glitch to me.
In reply to On mine, the default is 200%… by chinadoll
How you save it is irrelevnt - the zoom setting is not saved as part of the score at all. The only thing that is saved is the default zoom setting in Edit / Preferences / Canvas. Whatever you set there, that is how all scores will open by default. But as I said, you have to be careful in setting this because with multiple instances open - both A & B - it's indeterminate which settings will "win" next time.
As I said, the factory setting for this is 100%, so if you're seeing something else, it must be you changed it at some point in the past. Sounds like you don't remember changing it, and who knows what else might also be set incorrectly now, so I recommend reverting to factory settings to get everything the way it should be. Do the following:
1) close all running instances of MuseScore 4, by using via File / Quit in any of the open instances
2) verify the are no running instances of MuseScore anywhere
3) start one and only one instance of MuseScore, via the program icon
4) go to Help / Revert to factory settings
5) follow the prompts which will have you restart MuseScore, and go through the startup wizard where you pick the color scheme etc.
6) go to Edit / Preferences / Canvas
7) change the default zoom from 100% to whatever you prefer
8) File / Quit
Now all should be well.
In reply to How you save it is irrelevnt… by Marc Sabatella
Works for the main score, but not for parts, they get opend with 0% (!!) zoom
In reply to Works for the main score,… by Jojo-Schmitz
? Are you saying for you parts don't display at all? Definitely not the case for me, I view parts all the time. That's after the factory reset?
In reply to ? Are you saying for you… by Marc Sabatella
They do display, very large, zoom shows 0% though
In reply to They do display, very large,… by Jojo-Schmitz
Strange, I’ve never seen or heard of that happening. That’s after a factory reset? Did you also select a custom default zoom? For me the default 100% is honored both for score and parts, and likewise if I customize that setting.
In reply to Strange, I’ve never seen or… by Marc Sabatella
Try with this score
(Edit: score removed)
In reply to Try with this score by Jojo-Schmitz
Works normally for me. My preference is at the default 100%, and that's what I get when viewing the score or the part. If I change the preference to 70% and open the file, that too is honored for both score and part.
So again, are you continuing to see issues after the revert to factory settings? And with the released 4.0.2? I recall there was a quite a while back in a nightly build where somehow scaling settings would be set to 0 and mess things up, but I thought that was just the palette, and anyhow, it wouldn't survive a factory reset.
In reply to Works normally for me. My… by Marc Sabatella
I've see my prefs to Page width. Works for main score, not for parts
But setting it to 100% doesn't work either.
OK, a factory reset brought it back to senses, thanks for the hint.
In reply to I've see my prefs to Page… by Jojo-Schmitz
Great! I think I recall there there was a change in how that setting was organized shortly before release and old preferences might have messed things up.
In reply to I've see my prefs to Page… by Jojo-Schmitz
Mystery probably solved - you mostly likely had enabled the Navigator on startup, and the factory reset cleared that. Seems we had already established this was a problem a few months ago. But it's not just score vs parts for me - it's first score open vs subsequent scores opened, if the Navigator is enabled on startup.
In reply to How you save it is irrelevnt… by Marc Sabatella
that works, thanks
In reply to that works, thanks by chinadoll
sort of works. If I open another piece, it will open in 75% but if I open my original one that previously was 75& its reverts to 200% again. So, only partially works. I didn't change anything. I didn't modify anything. This is just how it is and I guess from the comments I have gotten that there is no solution. bye.
In reply to sort of works. If I open… by chinadoll
Hmm, it's not that there is no solution - it's that you are literally the only person that seems to be experiencing the problem you describe. So we're trying to help, but a bit confused, because we've never experienced it ourselves or heard anyone describe doing. it. Can you please create a screen recording showing you going through those exact steps I outlined, and then showing the problem? Maybe that will help us understand what is going wrong for you.
In reply to Hmm, it's not that there is… by Marc Sabatella
Here is an mp4 video of what happens. Initially, all is ok. Files open in 75%. (I also had to modify the soundfonts since reset removed all the ones I added.) But then I left the computer and came back several hours later to open M4 files and while the first one opened ok, the second and third opened as 200%. Did it add the MP4? I don't see it.
In reply to Here is an mp4 video of what… by chinadoll
Better to simply upload the video to YouTube or a similar site and then add the link here. be sure in your video to show you carefully following the steps I outlined previously though with the revert to factory settings etc.
In reply to Better to simply upload the… by Marc Sabatella
Marc,
Sorry to bother you but I also am not able to reduce the Zoom in MS4 (on a mac). I open the file then under Musescore I open Preferences, then under Canvas select 100. This does not seem to do anything. The magnification of the MS4 file is very large, So something is missing, And I am not able to find any solution on the web.
In reply to Marc, Sorry to bother you… by Fast Eddie
The setting in Preferences controls the default zoom, not the current zoom. The current zoom is set using the control at bottom right of the main window, or Ctrl plus the mouse wheel (probably Cmd on Mac), or the keyboard shortcuts Ctrl/Cmd with +/- (might need = instead of + depending on keyboard layout).
The default zoom is already 100%, which should result in the score display life size on screen - same as when printed. If you're saying it looks larger than when printed even when you have the current zoom (not just the default) set to 100%, then probably something is off in the scaling settings in your OS. Best to start a new thread and give more system details - especially regarding your display - plus screen shots.
In reply to Better to simply upload the… by Marc Sabatella
https://youtu.be/y0X3-qxhQfQ
above is the link. thank you for suggesting making a YouTube video.
yes Marc, the first part of the video shows all the steps you outlined carefully followed and how it works for a while and then reverts back for unknown reasons. the video is about 5 minutes long. thank you.
In reply to https://youtu.be/y0X3-qxhQfQ… by chinadoll
I watched the video, thanks for that detail! Very interesting, and I've never seen anything quite like this before.
There are things your video isn't showing - like what actually happened during those missing hours! - but I think I am able to follow what happened, and I am finally able to reproduce this.
The key seems to be that sometime during those missing hours, you must have started MsueScore again and gone to Preferences and enabled the option to show Navigator on startup. Because, it wasn't visible before those missing hours but is afterwards.
If I do that, then I can get the situation you are seeing where the first score you open is fine, but subsequent scores go opened with "0" showing as the zoom but clearly being much larger than 75%. This turns out to be a case that has been reported by a couple of people - see https://github.com/musescore/MuseScore/issues/15591. I think the fact that it's fine the first score you open but only off for subsequent scores was making it hard to see how to reproduce. Anyhow, I've updated the issue report with this new information.
Meanwhile, one obvious workaround is to not have the navigator open with your score - it really doesn't serve any useful purpose given the existence of your scroll wheel / touch pad plus the scroll bars within MsueScore or PgUp/PgDn keys (Fn+Up/Down on keyboard that lack these keys), plus the Find command (Cmd+F), etc.
Or get in the habit of Cmd+0 / Cmd+- when you open a score to get it to 75% quickly.
In reply to I watched the video, thanks… by Marc Sabatella
First of all, no, the time away means I wasn't using my computer at all (only my iPad) and so wasn't messing with musescore preferences. This same situation has happened overnight. And no, I don't sleep walk and secretly use my computer during the night. Nor are there any gremlins in my house who are on my computer.
Yes, curiously, the first score opens at 75% and if I open a second or third score, it opens at 200%. And it doesn't matter what the first score is.
If I am the only one with this issue, maybe it is some issue with my computer.
Anyway, I like your idea of Cmd+0/Cmd+-. That works great and I will use that from now on. Thanks very much! I learned some interesting things. I greatly appreciate your interest in taking the time to look into this issue and your helpful suggestions.
In reply to First of all, no, the time… by chinadoll
Absolutely you or someone was using MuseScore during those hours - it's obvious from the video, where the last time you opened MuseScore before those missing hours there were only three recent scores and no navigator, but then hours later, there were many recent scores and the navigation shows by default. The proof is right there in the video.
Anyhow, the explanation is then quite simple and exactly as I previously explained: if you have the option set to show the navigator on startup (which was not set in the first part of the video but because set during those missing hours), then the bug happens. It's a simple as that - not an issue with your computer at all, just a bug with the navigator.
In reply to Absolutely you or someone… by Marc Sabatella
FWIW: MS4 4.1.1.23 on Linux 22.04
I've had the same problem with multiple parts displaying at 0% with the default Canvas pref set at 100%. Navigator opening by default. When I disabled the navigator on startup, parts display at the 100% preference setting. Would be nice if the navigator didn't mess with things. The navigator brought my MS 3 system to molasses speed on Linux. Could never use it. The navigator is handy for 30 page orchestra scores!
Thanks as always.
George
In reply to FWIW: MS4 4.1.1.23 on Linux… by George Khouri
I can confirm this