Ledger lines go invisible when top note is set invisible
I noticed that if I have two notes with ledger lines and I set the top note as invisible, the ledger lines fully go away, leaving the bottom note without a ledge line, meaning it would be impossible to figure out what note it is supposed to be on printed music.
I am trying to write violin harmonics with the lower note being shown but not played (on the playback) and the upper (sounding) note being played but not shown, but I can't figure out how to show the ledger line for the bottom note. I wish I knew about an easier way to write harmonics with the playback working as it would sound on the instrument, but I don't. Doing it by setting the sounding notes to invisible (how I am currently doing it), means I also have to adjust the note beam, which is annoying but at least doable. Any help would be appreciated.
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First of all: I don't know anything about violins, so I don't understand this necessity. But that doesn't matter, I hope I've recognized your problem anyway ...
My idea: you could write the notes that you want to hear but not see in the score on a second violin line and then make this instrument invisible. At least in MuS 3 this is very easy to do.
![Hidden+SoundingNotes.png]( "Hidden+SoundingNotes.png")
First staff: Your problem
Second staff: notes you want to hear and see
Third staff: Notes that you want to hear but not see. Make this violin line invisible.
(I already know that these notes in the very low pitch cannot be played by a violin).
In reply to First of all: I don't know… by HildeK
Thanks for the reply, you understood my problem completely. Unfortunately, another staff messes up the spacing since it's a piece for solo violin, but that would certainly be an ok solution. It seems like I will have to sacrifice something (either the accuracy of the playback, the spacing/formatting, or the readability). Hopefully, in future updates, the Musescore team will code it so the ledger lines for visible notes don't go away.
(btw: the necessity is that harmonics on a violin often sound different than they are played. When you notate a harmonic, you use a hollow diamond notehead, which indicates the player lightly touches the string at that note. The note that is produced is generally a different note than what is fingered on the instrument.)
In reply to Thanks for the reply, you… by Jams99
At least in MuS 3, you can deactivate the visibility of the second violine in the instrument dialog. Then it does not take up any space, but the notes are still audible.
You can also write a feature request on Github ...
In reply to Thanks for the reply, you… by Jams99
I was sure that I had seen instructions to let you hide a staff (so you could hide that harmonics staff), but still hear it play. However, I can't get it to work the way I thought it did and I can't find the instructions in the Handbook. (Must've been elsewhere ... or I'm remembering something incorrectly.) I still think it's possible and I hope someone can provide the instructions for this.
In MS 3.6.2 . Put the top note in voice 2, and it works
In reply to In MS 3.6.2 . Put the top… by Raymond Wicquart
thank you! works in MS 4 as well. I should have thought of that haha.
In reply to thank you! works in MS 4 as… by Jams99
I too! :-)