is it possible to beam across multiple staves w/o auto-layout adjustments?

• Mar 20, 2025 - 23:11

I'm trying to engrave a bit of piano music where the two hands share a beam, which the composer has written beneath the staff, for space/layout reasons. As far as I can tell, moving the upper staff's beam down to sit 'on top' of the lower staff is impossible: it creates space for itself by forcing the lower staff to move down. Hiding and unchecking auto-place don't fix this.

Attached is a picture of how I'd like it to look (fixed up in Inkscape) and an example file: I've tried in two ways, both by putting in in a 2nd voice on the lower staff, and just putting it on the upper staff.

Any ideas? And, if not, is this something that seems reasonable to ask for in a future update?

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UPDATE: I have figured out the trick! it's a bit annoying but it works fine: instead of just turning off 'auto-place' on the beam itself, you also need to uncheck it for EVERY stem attached to that beam, then it can be moved down as far as needed!

In reply to by bcdaurelle

I was able to do it by placing the note for the upper staff in a different voice and using "cross-staff notation" (https://musescore.org/en/handbook/4/cross-staff-notation). Easier than turning off Auto-place on beam and stem: simply turn it off for the entire note.

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Be sure to hide one of the 5s from each quintuplet and (obviously) the rest for the omitted high note.

Personally, I think this is a poor choice. I would notate it simply with separate quintuplets in the upper and lower staves. Simpler to read, IM(NH)O.

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