Flaw with ties in 1.3 I exploited, can I do something similar with 2?
I guess this is the opposite of a bug report, because you guys fixed the flaw, just I had exploited it.
In 1.3 when a tie crossed systems, each arc was treated as a separate element.
In the attached, there is a different refrain depending on when it is sung.
I tied the end of each refrain to the start of each verse.
Then I made appropriate tie marks and notes "hidden."
Look at the last and first measures of the refrains and verses using 1.3 to see what I did.
When I open with 2.0RC the entire tie is treated as one element (which it should be).
Can I create this effect with 2?
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If there is a right way ... wait an authoritative answer, I do not know.
I can suggest a trick:
Open with 2.0RC and choose show hidden objects.
You'll notice that I included some ghost notes (and made them silent)
In reply to If there is a right way ... by Shoichi
Thanks,
That workaround will work, unless of course as you say, there is a "right way."
Which might be better or it might cause issues with MuseScore 4.7.
I already know these types of workarounds would be a problem to anyone importing from Music XML...
In reply to If there is a right way ... by Shoichi
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In reply to If there is a right way ... by Shoichi
Just curious: What do you mean by "choose show hidden objects"?
In reply to Just curious: What do you by Isaac Weiss
You can hide/unhide invisible objects via the View menu. 'Hidde' would cause them not to show even on screen, 'unhidden' shows them in grey, but would still not print them,
So the effect you want is a "one sided" tie?
There is no direct support for that in 2.0, so it's a matter of finding a workaround that works for you. This is something we need to support in the future. There is partial support internally, but no good way to enable it.
Similar to Shoichi's method but you don't need more Voices. Select all the notes, add a Grace note after each, select the Grace notes and make them invisible, stemless and tie the big notes to the little notes.
In reply to Similar to Shoichi's method by underquark
Simple and elegant. The community resources seem inexhaustible.
Thank You.
In reply to Simple and elegant. The by Shoichi
Well, we have expression for this here: 'underquarkian' ;-)
In reply to Similar to Shoichi's method by underquark
Underquark,
I didn't see your reply before I "fixed" the issue, I'll look at it now, and see if it will work better than what I came up with Shoichi's suggestion.
What I did is this:
which ends up looking like this:
The MIDI player will treat the halfnote-dot tied to the quarter note as a whole note, which is all the viewer or printer will see.
In reply to Underquark, I didn't see by SeasonPsalt
I like Underquark's better, as the glyph for a stemless half note is slightly different than the glyph for a whole note.
In reply to I like Underquark's better, by SeasonPsalt
FWIW, you can force the half note to use the whole note glyph using the Inspector, but I think grace note approach is probably nicer anyhow.