Grayed out notes
For some reason, some notes are grayed out, and the sound from those notes are muffled. How can I fix this problem?
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For some reason, some notes are grayed out, and the sound from those notes are muffled. How can I fix this problem?
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Hard to say without seeing the score (the actual MSCZ file).
In reply to Hard to say without seeing by Marc Sabatella
Thank you for your response, how can I share the score with you. It is written as private and not shared publicly.
In reply to Thank you for your response, by nkg0319
Just post it here as an attachment (see "File Attachments" link below where you type your post). If you are uncomfortable sharing the whole score, just save a copy of the score with everything delete but the problem measure.
In reply to Just post it here as an by Marc Sabatella
Thank you.
It is the 17th bar, in the base clef, two c's are greyed out. I deleted the bar, and reentered these notes with the same result.
Incidentally, I also cannot delete the left "A", Rehearsal mark, at the top. Normally, I can easily highlight the mark by double click and then I move, but this time, nothing worked. I ended up leaving because it has no effect on the score, but I would like to know if there's q way to delete it for the future reference.
In reply to Thank you. It is the 17th by nkg0319
The two notes are at the top end of the singing range for the basses, hence colored light green. If they were outside of the range they would red.
As for the unselectable rehearsal mark, select the other A, right click and select "select all similar elements" and type Ctrl-R to reset them. The first A will move back a page, so you dragged it off the page and it becomes unselectable.
In reply to The two notes are at the top by schepers
Thank you for your great help.
The rehearsal mark issue was resolved per your suggestion.
As for the greyed out notes, I understand the top range indicator, but muffle or dampen those notes on play back is Just curious. After all, it is a fairly common C for the bass singers.
Thanks again.
In reply to Thank you for your great by nkg0319
C4 is inside the amateur range, C#4 is not any more ;-)
Why it does sound muffled is unclear to me, but I can confirm that it does, in this scrore, but not in other I'm having here, no idea where the difference comes from
In reply to C4 is inside the amateur by Jojo-Schmitz
It seems that note is a little quieter in the Ahh Choir sound in Fluid than some of the surrounding notes. C#, D, D# right above middle C - presumably all coming from the same sample - are slightly quieter. I don't particularly care for that sound anyhow - in this soundfont or any that I've tried. Switching to any other sound would fix it.
In reply to It seems that note is a by Marc Sabatella
On that note, (ha ha), I was wondering if a better sound fonts in general are available for the current version, 2.0? Yes, that "Ah~" choir sound is not very convincing.
In reply to On that note, (ha ha), I was by nkg0319
I think overall, FluidR3 is one of the very best there is. Maybe only Timbres of Heaven is better in general, but it's also much larger. There are plenty of other soundfonts available, though, that might not be as good in general but might happen to have a more pleasing chor ahh sound you might be prefer. Realistically - or more to the point, *not* realistically :-) - choir sounds are pretty much always terrible, because they can't do words, and the sound of human voice is something we know so werll that we have a hard time accepting any compromises at all, and synthesizing sound - even from actual samples - is nothing if not a compromise.
In a similar vein, I could paint you a picture of the tree in your back yard that would be off in a thousand details but you'd probably still accept as basically right, but if I painted a portait of your significant other and had the angle of one eyebrow slightly off, you'd be bothered by it big time.
In reply to I think overall, FluidR3 is by Marc Sabatella
Your point about the drawing is well taken here, but it would be helpful in general to have an additional choice of sound palate. Are these sound-fonts you suggest easy enough to implement to the general use of the Musescore? I mean, once installed, does it becomes a part of the play back default?
As for a better human sound, I think only time before it is trickle down for our uses to reproduce more realistic voice. At least they are working on more realistic speech, now, as we speak.
In reply to Your point about the drawing by nkg0319
Yes, it is easy to install new soundfonts - just see the Handbook. You can install a new default, or keep the default for most sounds but just change specific sounds to a different soundfont for specific scores, etc.
In reply to Yes, it is easy to install by Marc Sabatella
Thanks! I'll check it out this weekend.
In reply to C4 is inside the amateur by Jojo-Schmitz
I thought the bass range from E2 E4? Anyway, I was curious why C4 would be considered outside of normal range.
I've had this same greyed out issue in the previous version, 1.3(?), also playing back muffled.
I don't know if it's a bug or...
In reply to I thought the bass range from by nkg0319
Bass range is whatever any particular bass can sing. And it's not like their voice just stops at some point - the quality just diminishes. MuseScore marks "amateur" and "professional" ranges separately, and middle C is a pretty commonly cited safe upper bound for the useful range of a bass - most textbooks etc would say the same. If you are bothered by the warning, you can turn it off, or use Staff Properties to tell MuseScore what range you'd prefer it use. but I think it's spot on here - if you are writing above middle C for a bass, you are asking for trouble unless you know these are professionals.
The "muffled" sound is just a matter of some notes in some soundfonts being a different volume than others. It is notoriously difficult to get all notes in all sounds to be perfectly well balanced. If you heard the same with the soundfont provided with 1.3, it's just coincidence.
In reply to Bass range is whatever any by Marc Sabatella
Thank you for your suggestion, turning off the range, in the note setting, solved the annoying mystery. With it, the sound is back to normal too in the play back.
For amateure or professional, middle C is commonly seen in the bass scores, so I am still mystified by the default setting though.
In reply to Thank you for your by nkg0319
This isn't middle C, it is middle C#...
and somewhere the line needs to be drawn.
In reply to Thank you for your by nkg0319
Changing the range warning does not affect sound at all. I think the power of suggestion might be coming into play there :-)
You mean that muddy green? If so: it means the note is outside the amateur range of that instrument, but still within the professional range
muffled sound might be instrument specific, we had issues with the soundfont not providing all pitches for certain instruments. I think Alto Sax and some recorder were affected. A fixed soundfont is available, see https://musescore.org/en/node/41521#comment-253191
If that isn't it, please be more specific and share the score