MS 2.0 and MS 1.3
As some people already know, I have now about finished entering my opera, the Anasazi, into MS 1.3, I am on the very last file of that project, and plan to finish it in 1.3 so I won't have to figure out 2.0, etc. My question is, I have not downloaded 2.0 yet, as I want to know if it would remain separate from 1.3? I thought new updates sometimes seem ,in computer work, to know about your earlier version of something, and just "meld" into it and update/replace it. Also, would editing my 1.3 version with 2.0 later on cause any buggy problems? It was mentioned by MS that "you might have to revisit certain manual adjustments" one made in 1.3. I am a little worried about that statement.
I plan to order Marc Sabatella's MS book from amazon later on, but for now, I will have to go by the MS manuals and Forum support. I am assuming that book will cover all advanced features as well as basic.
I am especially hoping I can later use 2.0 to copy and paste Lyrics into choruses and ensembles, Quartets, etc. in the opera, so dthat the Libretto words do not have to be typed in under each voices, SATB, etc. Such a job! I remember being told that 2.0 would have that feature of copying and pasting Lyrics under different voices, as least if all the voices has more or less the same rhythmic configurations, etc.
Thanks, Del Hudson
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1.3 and 2.0 coexist peacefully, so you can have both installed at the same time on the same computer.
You just need to make sure to not overwrite your 1.3 scores with 2.0, as 1.3 then won't be able to open them anymore. Also a double click on an mscz file will start whichever MuseScore version you installed last, so likely 2.0. To open a score in 1.3, you'd either start 1.3 and open from there, or do a right-click on the file and an 'open with'
In reply to 1.3 and 2.0 coexist by Jojo-Schmitz
Thanks for your comment--The only problem is I don't quite understand what you're saying. I mainly do not want to get 1 1/2 years of work on entering the score with 1.3 messed
up with trying to use 2.0!
In reply to Thanks for your comment--The by delhud2
Basically, you don't need to worry about anything—you can install 2.0 and still keep 1.3, and to be safe when you open a 1.3 file with 2.0 you can save it separately from the original file, so you can still open the original file with 1.3.
In reply to Basically, you don't need to by Isaac Weiss
Hi Zack,
Thanks for the comment. i think get it--you save the 2.0 file separately, right? The 1.3 was already saved--leave it where it was? Del
In reply to Hi Zack, Thanks for the by delhud2
Precisely! That way you can get a sense of what 2.0 is like as a zero-risk trial. ;-)
Ciao Del.
I try to explain (some will do better).
Versions 1.3, 2.0.1 (2.0.2 is being released) and Nightly can coexist peacefully.
The newer ones can read the scores compiled with previous, not vice versa.
Because your artwork is very large and complex it is not advisable to use Nightly that may be unstable (but now this is not very true).
You can try this:
download the 2.0.1;
Open your score and choose "Save as" assigning a new name.
So you will have your original (made with 1.3) in the usual folder and the new score (saved with 2.0.1) in a separate folder (you may have chosen) with a different name.
In reply to Ciao Del. I try to explain by Shoichi
In ma scores folder I simply created a subfolder "2.0" and saved all scores I needed to do bigger changes to there, using MuseScore 2.0. Smaller changes (like typos) to my 1.x score I still do with 1.3, but stuff like major relayout or adding instruments I'd do in 2.0
In reply to In ma scores folder I simply by Jojo-Schmitz
@delhud2, sorry for meddling: why not add the copyright?
In reply to @delhud2, sorry for meddling: by Shoichi
Did I leave out a Copyright on a file? Was not aware of that.
In reply to Ciao Del. I try to explain by Shoichi
Ciao Shoichi also,
I did not even know about 2.0.1. and 2/0.2. That makes it even more confusing for me to figure out. I do NOT want to mess up my Anasazi score by trying to edit with 2.0 or later, is the main idea! I better finish the final file (within about a weeks or so) purely in 1.3. However, it would be great later to have the new versions. Especially, does anyone know if Lyrics can be copied and pasted under multiple voices such as a Chorus or Trio, etc. with the 2.0???
I will try to figure out what you all are telling me.
In reply to Ciao Shoichi also, I did by delhud2
Lyrics can be copied and pasted, yes, Not such what specific you might mean about multiple voices, but if you select a bunch of lyrics, copy, then click a note and paste, the lyrics are pasted to the corresponding notes in the same voice as the note you clicked.
2.0.1 will replace 2.0, and 2.0.2 - when it comes out - will replace 2.0.1. In no circumstance will any of these ever interfere with 1.3 in any way. At least, not on Windows or Mac. I suppose it is possible the package for some particular Linux distribution might be set up so that 2.0 replace 1.3.
Just be sure to save a copy of the 1.3 version of your file - I'd do that before even opening it in 2.0 just to be safe. Store a copy in another folder or on a flash drive or whatever, then do as you like from there.
In reply to Lyrics can be copied and by Marc Sabatella
Thanks for your comment/info, Marc. i will experiment with lyrics copying then and also careful about downloading 2.0, etc. Del
Unexpected information: when I uploaded the final File of my Anasazi project to Musescore.com on Sat.-- a notice appeared that the file was created on an outdated version of MS (1.3) which would no longer be supported by MS.com as of Sep. 1st of this year! So, I need to know if that means my entire project files have only about 5 more weeks in which any editing could be done on either 1.3 or using 2.0 to edit the `1.3 files? (Is it even safe to edit a 1.3 file with 2.0?) Any editing would be few and minor at this point, maybe only a little text on "About this score" or something, possibly a missing slur or something on the actual score, etc. (I'm talking about uploading to MS.com). Also, does this mean that after Sep 1st my opera files on MS.com will be "set in stone" so to speak? (Glad I got them all in before Sep 1st!) Can the 1.3 files be transferred to 2.0 in some way? That sounds sort of scary to even try. Need some enlightenment on all this, thanks.
On the MS.com notice, it had a place to click on MS2.0 says Download now, but I still have not downloaded 2.0. delhud2
In reply to Unexpected information: when by delhud2
I downloaded the last score that you've uploaded two days ago.
I opened it with 2.0.2 and gives me an error in the measure 160. No problem, I followed the instructions you'll find here:
https://musescore.org/en/node/54721
I am attaching here, if you want to try downloading 2.0.2 and open the score with it.
Congratulations.
In reply to I downloaded the last score by Shoichi
Hi, Good to hear from you again-- I will look at measure 160 in my 1.3 final file #7 then. The whole project has been so massive that the wonder is that there aren't more errors--If I had been paid for all the man-hours of labor I put in on this opera, I would be rich! I would get a new Jaguar.
Thanks for your interest and downloading, etc. I will study your attachments and maybe act upon it. As of now, I have not even downloaded MS 2.) yet. I need to be careful not to mess something up in my 1.3 files. Thanks for your congratulations! Del
In reply to Unexpected information: when by delhud2
See our previous response to you in this thread. 2.0 opens 1.3 files, but the reverse is not true, so as we said before, just be sure to first make a *copy* of the file so you still have the original 1.3 version. There will generally be some differences in how things look, which will in most cases be very big improvements but different nonetheless. If you have performed lots of manual adjustments, you might need to revisit some of those, especially if you performed those adjustments incorrectly in the first place (eg, extening lines with the mouse rather than with Shift+Right).
In reply to See our previous response to by Marc Sabatella
OK, Still do not know where that leaves the files in relation to uploading any new editing to MS.com/ Does that mean if I edit a 1.3 file with 2.0, MS,.com will support those changes after Sep 1, 2015? I do need to add the libretto words for mutliple voices , choruses, etc. which you said I could copy and paste, etc. However, I will not do that until a production is arranged, or parts extraction needs to be done. (Thanks to your previous help, I would never think now of extending lines with the mouse instead of the Shift-Right, etc.! In fact, i went back and fixed places where I had done that before.)
In reply to OK, Still do not know where by delhud2
I don't know the exact plans for musescore.com, so I can't say for sure what happens to scores created with 1.3 that are uploaded before the deadline. But definitely, once you load a 1.3 score into 2.0 and save it, that score is now a 2.0 score, so it should definitely be supported.
In reply to I don't know the exact plans by Marc Sabatella
My guess it, that as of that date all score will get rendered as if created with 2.0, so they may (and probably will) look different to how they looked in 1.x
But we'd need Thomas and/or lasconic for a definite answer
In reply to My guess it, that as of that by Jojo-Schmitz
After september 1st, all scores will indeed be rendered with 2.0.x, including updates to existing scores.
In reply to After september 1st, all by [DELETED] 5
So existing 1.3 scores will not be "left behind" so to speak? But they will look diffferent?
In reply to So existing 1.3 scores will by delhud2
"Possibly" look different. Simple scores will probably show no visible differences when viewed in 1.3 versus 2.0. The more complex the score the more likely it will be to look different. So if you care how the score looks on musescore.com, you should definitely follow the advice to make a copy of your score and load that copy into 2.0 (2.0.2 at this point) and clean up anything you feel needs it, then upload that version.
In reply to "Possibly" look different. by Marc Sabatella
OK.