Allow fingering to go above slurs in some cases?

• Dec 3, 2018 - 11:51
Reported version
3.0
Priority
P1 - High
Type
Functional
Frequency
Once
Severity
S5 - Suggestion
Reproducibility
Always
Status
by design
Regression
No
Workaround
Yes
Project
MuseScore

OS: Windows 10 (10.0), Arch.: x86_64, MuseScore version (64-bit): 3.0.0.4095, revision: 5859662

See attached score. In measure 6 add a "Fingering" symbol to one of the beamed notes below the slur.

Expected result: Fingering should go above slur.
Actual result: Slur goes above fingering!

Attachment Size
chansonette.mscz 25.08 KB

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• Dec 3, 2018 - 13:46
Title Ties are placed above fingering (should be the other way round) ⇒ Slurs are placed above fingering (should be the other way round)

Then I'll correct the title a bit to be more precise :)

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• Dec 4, 2018 - 10:55

Is this a problem? I don't know about guitar fingerings, but violins write finger numbers close to the note - slurs are often far away, so the number ends up under the slur. Actually, here's two Paganini caprices, with it both ways. fingerings.png
I don't know where it should default to, but it seems a little debatable to just immediately declare this a problem.

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• Dec 4, 2018 - 12:32
Status active ⇒ needs info

Laurelin is quite right: the exact position does depend on the context. More info needed …

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• Dec 5, 2018 - 11:29
Title Slurs are placed above fingering (should be the other way round) ⇒ Allow fingering to go above slurs in some cases?
Severity S3 - Major ⇒ S5 - Suggestion
Status needs info ⇒ open issues
Workaround No ⇒ Yes

After further investigation, it is possible to place fingering above the slur in the above example—even with automatic placement ON:

  1. Add the "Fingering" to one of the beamed notes in measure 6.
  2. Drag and drop the fingering above the beam (or use the arrow buttons, or Y offset). The slur will move underneath at some point.
  3. Move the fingering down to the desired position.

As there doesn't seem to be anything to fix, IMV, this can be closed or marked "by design."

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• Sep 4, 2020 - 04:42
Severity S5 - Suggestion ⇒ S3 - Major
Status by design ⇒ active
Reported version 3.0 ⇒ 3.5

I can see that there is no issue with moving the fingering in the Chansonette score that the original poster attached. However, I am experiencing a similar problem with a score of my own. Here, if you try to move the 5-1 fingering in measure 3 above the slur, the slur just continues to automatically move higher and higher, and the only way to fix it is to turn off automatic placement for the fingering. Fingerings should automatically be placed on the most visually pleasing side of a slur, as in Sibelius.

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Fingering_Slur_Problem.mscz 14.69 KB

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• Sep 4, 2020 - 04:56
Severity S3 - Major ⇒ S5 - Suggestion
Status active ⇒ by design

Since Anatoly-os is the one who decides what does and doesn't get fixed, I'd leave the status as he put it. Adding a comment on an issue that isn't closed is always welcomed though.

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• Sep 4, 2020 - 08:09

Okay, my apologies. I probably should have read up a little more on how this forum works--I have not used it before. I feel that the issue I'm encountering goes beyond what was previously being discussed, but I wasn't sure if it was worth starting a new post. Anyway, I'll respect his decision. Thanks!

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