"Add Chord Symbol" in the palette
Hi! I've just bought a Win10 tablet pc with a stylus pen and I'm trying to use Musescore without a keyboard.
I create lead sheets for the most, on my pc I use the CTRL+K combination for adding chord symbols. Without a physical keyboard it seems there is not a convenient way to add chord symbols, i mean you can only
- click on a note, clik on menu -> add -> text -> chord symbol
OR
- invoke the virtual keyboard and "virtually" press the CTRL+K combination
Since both ways are pretty annoying, I've tried to find a "add chord symbol" button to add to my palette, to be dragged and dropped where needed, but no success.
Am I doing something wrong, asking too much or I'm talking about a feature not yet implemented?
Regards
Comments
You can Ctrl-Shift-Drag chord symbols from a score into a custom palette (prepare it once using the keyboard?)
In reply to You can Ctrl-Shift-Drag… by jeetee
thanks but that would imply I've got to create a palette with EVERY chord for EVERY key? :)
In reply to thanks but that would imply… by Pasquale Renna
How else do you envision typing the correct chord if you don't want to type?
In reply to How else do you envision… by jeetee
No, jeetee... I do want to type the chord :) I just want to avoid several taps on the tablet (see my first post) before I'm able to enter the chord symbol I need
In reply to No, jeetee... I do want to… by Pasquale Renna
Then just add a single chord symbol to the palette.
One tap to add it to your score afterwards, double tap it into edit mode to change it.
In reply to Then just add a single chord… by jeetee
Thanks, that's a good workaround... waiting for the real feature
In reply to Thanks, that's a good… by Pasquale Renna
What would the real feature do more than this in your expectance?
In reply to What would the real feature… by jeetee
Simply a blank chord symbol, without the need to delete the existing one.
In my dreams, I tap on a note, tap on the "add chord symbol" on the palette and enter the chord (just like pressing CTRL + K on the physical keyboard)
In reply to Simply a blank chord symbol,… by Pasquale Renna
Add > Text > Chord symbol, one swift move ;-)
In reply to Add > Text > Chord symbol by Jojo-Schmitz
:)
In reply to :) by Pasquale Renna
Place the attached plugin in your plugins folder, then activate it in the Plugin Manager.
From now on, after launching MuseScore, launch the plugin. It'll give you two buttons in a dockable panel to trigger chord/lyrics input.
In reply to Place the attached plugin in… by jeetee
Thanks! It's a step in advance but there's a bug: the textbox for entering the chord name does appear, but i'm unable to type anything with the virtual keyboard.
If I tap on the chord textfield, it disappears.
If i open the virtual keyboard and then push the plugin button for the chord symbol, the textfield stays on the screen but every letter i enter is not recognised and the textfield remains blank. This of course doesn't happen if i use the usual menu entry for the chord symbol
In reply to Thanks! It's a step in… by Pasquale Renna
Interestingly enough this focus problem does not exist on my laptop. Meaning that if I click the button I can start typing right away.
And all the button does is call the command that is called by the menu entry.
So it seems that tablets focus-wise simple can't handle this in a decent way.
In reply to Interestingly enough this… by jeetee
It's interesting too that on my tablet if I select the add chord command from the menu, I can start typing right away. It's pretty strange the plugin button behavior on my tablet, I imagined that your plugin was a simple shortcut for that menu (I thought too this was sufficient) but when I push the button it's like the focus is immediately lost, just like when you click away from the fresh blank chord textfield.
In reply to It's interesting too that on… by Pasquale Renna
Now I wonder; what happens if (as a test) you open the virtual keyboard first, then press the plugin button. Can you type directly then?
In reply to Now I wonder; what happens… by jeetee
No :( Already tried... the letters entered on the virtual keyboard are simply "lost" (that is, are not "caught" by the textfield)
In reply to No :( Already tried... the… by Pasquale Renna
I'm (for now at least) out of ideas then :'(
In reply to I'm (for now at least) out… by jeetee
thanks for your efforts!
In reply to No, jeetee... I do want to… by Pasquale Renna
I'm not really understanding here 0 do you or don't you have a keyboard (virtual or otherwise)? Without it, how do you type the chord? So I assume you do. If the only problem is the Ctrl key isn't easily reachable, just customize the shortcut to a single key, in Edit / Preferences . Shortcuts.
In reply to I'm not really understanding… by Marc Sabatella
the objective is to minimize the number of screen taps, when using Musescore on a tablet (= virtual keyboard). Thanks for your comment, but the shortcut idea is not much of help, because the extra tap for calling the virtual keyboard still remains
In reply to the objective is to minimize… by Pasquale Renna
I'm not understanding, Don't you need the keyboard to type the chord anyhow? How does it help to have a screen tap to add the chord symbol help if you don't want to use a keyboard to actually enter the chord?
In reply to I'm not understanding, Don… by Marc Sabatella
like i said above, i do want to use the VIRTUAL KEYBOARD ON MY TABLET to enter the needed chord.
i'd love to have the ability to access that function with one tap, while now at least three taps are needed every time.
i don't know how to explain easier than this :)
In reply to like i said above, i do want… by Pasquale Renna
I'm equally confused though, likely because I don't have the tablet experience. From my understanding, the workflow you're looking for is:
(1) Click some button (instead of going through the menu)
(2) Open the virtual keyboard
(3) Type the chord symbol
Whereas the proposed method (changed single key shortcut) would result in:
(1) Open the virtual keyboard
(2) Tap the shortcut button
(3) Type the chord symbol
Which seems to be exactly the same number of steps and effort?
In reply to like i said above, i do want… by Pasquale Renna
So you're wanting there to be one command that does two different things:
1) put MuseScore in chord symbol entry mode
2) tell your tablet to display the virtual keyboard
I'm not sure that's even technically possible for MuseScore to do, but probably an AutoHotKey script could be programmed to do these two separate actions.
In reply to So you're wanting there to… by Marc Sabatella
That virtual keyboard enables itself onece it detects a text inpit. Same as on your mobile.
And as far as I understand that's the whole point of this request, have a way to get into some text enty mode without having to manually enable the virtual keyboadr.
For a palette entry we'd need to enable such an entry to trigger any of the
cmdfunctions. That's current not possible as far as I can tell, bould would indeed be a useful extension, also for most of the entries in the Text palette, but then into edit mode right after having added them rather than requiring a double click.So far that seems to (sort of) happen only for the Instrument Change text.
In reply to That virtual keyboard… by Jojo-Schmitz
The interesting thing here is that the plugin method does put that empty chord symbol straight into edit mode; so for some reason his virtual keyboard just isn't picking up on that.
In reply to The interesting thing here… by jeetee
@jeetee • Jan 22, 2021 - 00:03
it's the same number of steps, but the number of taps is different
@Marc Sabatella • Jan 22, 2021 - 03:52
see Jojo-Schmitz's comment
@Jojo-Schmitz • Jan 22, 2021 - 06:54
you're right, the goal is to get into some text entry mode without having to manually enable the virtual keyboard. The plugin from jeetee seemed perfect but my tablet has a strange behavior on it (see the sub-thread above)
Same problem with lyrics. Not much we can do about that
In reply to Same problem with lyrics… by Jojo-Schmitz
:( ah ok, so it's a missing feature, although it doesn't seems so hard to implement...
In reply to :( ah ok, so it's a missing… by Pasquale Renna
Easy to fix actually: attach a keyboard
I wonder if adding a right-click option would do the trick… (To elaborate, you could right-click on a note or a rest to select something like "Add Chord Symbol" or "Add Lyric". However, I would caution against doing this too much, as that would eventually bloat the right-click menu.)
In reply to I wonder if adding a right… by funnyflywheel
in tablet mode you don't have a right click option, in a desktop environment i'd still use the ctrl+k shortcut, but other people may appreciate your idea