Buzz Roll Stem
TL;DR: Can we add a purely aesthetic, automatically positioned buzz roll z stem tremolo variation like demonstrated in the attached picture?
Often times percussion parts (particularly the marching variety) notate buzz rolls as a normal note head with a z stem. I've gone through the Master Palette and found two characters I often see as a buzz roll stem - a grotesque sans z and an engraved z . Unfortunately as far as I can tell there's no option to attach something specifically to the stem of a note (other than tremolo).
They're essentially tremolo stems but with a different symbol. I can duplicate the effect using custom placement, but any time the formatting changes I have to rearrange them. That's no big deal for a couple buzz rolls on a single instrument, but when I have multiple buzz rolling instruments across multiple parts and composite parts for a long piece it becomes a headache.
I'm not particularly interested in playback as this is Musescore and Musescore is all about notation, but I'd like to request these be added visually to Musescore and the advanced tremolo palette.
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These are available under Musical Symbols / Tremolos (pressing F2 when editing text) or in the Symbols part of the Master palette, there just search for "buzz"
In reply to These are available under… by Jojo-Schmitz
I'm not requesting the symbols - I already know they exist and how to use them as text. Adding them (like like any other stock Master Palette symbol) to a note by default doesn't attach them to the stem, but the note head (see below).
![Buzz Roll Stem 2.png]( "Buzz Roll Stem 2.png")
I'm requesting a new type of tremolo stem with the symbols automatically positioned on the stem (just like a slash tremolo) so that people don't have to adjust/readjust their positions initially or any time formatting changes.
In reply to I'm not asking for the… by Brock Allen
OK, maybe better request that via the issue tracker, for it not to get lost
In reply to OK, maybe better request… by Jojo-Schmitz
Added #256021: Add buzz roll tremolo stem
In reply to I'm not asking for the… by Brock Allen
Isn't it so that in drum notation your stems to which this apply are almost always aligned the same relative to the notehead.
Then positioning those symbols manually could become fairly doable:
1. Enter all notes and symbols
2. Right-click one symbol: select all similar elements
3. Use inspector (F8) to give them all an identical vertical/horizontal offset
In reply to Isn't it so that in drum… by jeetee
In reply to Isn't it so that in drum… by jeetee
If this is, as the OP says, a standard practice for marching-band percussion notation, then of course MuseScore should be made to do it without fanfare.
According to https://musescore.org/en/node/256021 the placement of the "z" should be fixed. With MuseScore 3.6.2 I'm seeing this:
![Bildschirmfoto 2021-07-17 um 12.06.20.png]( "Bildschirmfoto 2021-07-17 um 12.06.20.png")
I got the "z" from the master palette:
![Bildschirmfoto 2021-07-17 um 12.07.48.png]()
In reply to According to https:/… by RobFog
#256021: Add buzz roll tremolo stem is fixed and closed since long, since MuseScore 2.3. If you see this in 3.6.2 again, it is a regression and new issue. I can't reproduce it though.
But: Make sure to use the one from the Tremolos palette of the advanced workspace, not from the symbols palette of the master palette, the latter attaches it to the notehead rather than the stem, I guess that is what you're seeing, Layer 8 error ;-)
In reply to #256021: Add buzz roll… by Jojo-Schmitz
"use the one from the Tremolos palette of the advanced workspace"
Thanks, that did the trick.
In reply to "use the one from the… by RobFog
The stuff from the symbols palette (of the master palette) is always just a plain element, the glyph itself, without any semantical meaning
In reply to The stuff from the symbols… by Jojo-Schmitz
That's also a good hint. Thank you, Jojo.