trill presentation
In the attachment you see a part from a larger conductor. The question is how a trill (with accidentals) should be made and presented. The arranger wants an accidental (b, # etc) with the trill because by default it has to be vibrated on a whole tone, hence the accidental.
I take the trill vibrator from Pallets at "Lines", shorten the vibrating line so that there is only "tr" (so without 'continuation).
To place the sign I go to "tr" and add the correct sign via Palettes in "Accidentals".
I choose the brackets in Settings overview at "Author" >>Hook type>> Brackets (several options).
Because here the trill vibration occurs on a whole tone, I put the sign in 2 brackets as a reminder of that whole tone.
Now 3 questions from the arranger,
1) how can I print "tr" and the sign in bold because of visibility in conductor (of 950 bars)?
2) Is it customary to put those parentheses around the sign, the arranger doesn't know that option?
3) Do you have examples of how it is usual, with or without parentheses and type?
Please comment,
theo
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Regarding your questions:
"1) how can I print "tr" and the sign in bold because of visibility in conductor (of 950 bars)?"
[I can't help on this point, so I hope that a better expert can explain how to bolden the trill marking]
"2) Is it customary to put those parentheses around the sign, the arranger doesn't know that option?"
No, you will usually see the accidental without parentheses. However I show one exception below, where the courtesy natural is in parentheses - I think because of an A-flat in piano LH earlier in the same measure.
"3) Do you have examples of how it is usual, with or without parentheses and type?"
![Trill_sharp_above.png]( "Trill_sharp_above.png")
![Trill_flat_above.png]( "Trill_flat_above.png")
The examples below all come from an Oxford University Press edition of 1925. Perhaps you ought to find more modern examples as well?
... and the exception: parentheses for the natural on the trill in the last measure, piano RH:
![Trill_natural_in_parentheses_above.png]( "Trill_natural_in_parentheses_above.png")
In reply to Regarding your questions: "1… by DanielR
DanielR,
Thanks for the triller exemples. Any idea how I get an answer on question 1?
Greetings,
Theo
In reply to DanielR, Thanks for the… by Theo Moors
simple: you can't
In reply to simple: you can't by Jojo-Schmitz
Oh that's a shame to hear. A pity because in a conductor the accidental (b, # etc) are hard to see, thick was better.
So there is still work to be done by the software team.
Greetings,
Theo
In reply to Oh that's a shame to hear. A… by Theo Moors
The # and b, if entered as staff text, can get made bold via Inspector or the text tool. The tr and the wiggly line cannot
In reply to The # and b, if entered as… by Jojo-Schmitz
I tried your method and it works, fine.
The disadvantage is that if you move the trill the b takes on a life of its own, but it is a method. I'm going to introduce them to the arranger.
I hope there will be another opportunity to do better by standing on the b and then choosing bolt. (not as staff text)
Thanks again,
Theo