mid-measure line break
Hello,
I would like to add a line break in the middle of a measure. If you see the attached picture, you can see that the first line has a line break mid-measure, above the word "way", and the measure completes in the next line above the words "let us". Is there a way to do this MS? Thanks.
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Use edit. Measure. Split measure before selected note then add the line break. If you want tree bar line invisible click it and press v. You may also want to right click the second measure made and check exclude from measure count in measure properties
In reply to Use edit. Measure. Split by mike320
Thank you! This is exactly what I wanted to do.
One problem. I had measure numbers display at the head of each line, and it looks like excluding the broken measure at the beginning of a new line also eliminates the measure number. I don't want measure number to show in every measure, just at the head. How do I accomplish this? Thanks again!
In reply to Thank you! This is exactly by kenhan
Un check exclude in the second measure and check it in the first you made
In reply to Use edit. Measure. Split by mike320
Thanks for this answer, @mike320. I was able to follow your instructions with the exception of making the barline invisible. Is there something besides v that should work here?
In reply to Thanks for this answer, … by dwrichy
The barline probably turned from black to gray. If this is the case it will not print. If you use the View menu and remove the check from "Show invisible" the barline will disappear. If v does not make the barline invisible there are a couple of reasons it could happen. First, make sure you have not double clicked the barline prior to pressing v. If you double click it, adjustment squares will appear on the barline. If note of this works, let me know, because v makes almost anything invisible, is very useful and needs to work properly on every system.
In reply to Use edit. Measure. Split by mike320
When I try this, I click on Edit but Measure doesn't appear in the scroll-down menu. Is this a solution that worked for 2.x but has changed for 3.2.3?
In reply to When I try this, I click on… by pwpisano
The menu was moved from Edit to Tools in version 3.
In reply to The menu was moved from Edit… by mike320
Thanks! Sorry for the jittery finger last time.
In reply to Use edit. Measure. Split by mike320
When I try this, I click on Edit but Measure doesn't appear in the scroll-down menu. Is this a solution that worked for 2.x but has changed for 3.2.3?
In reply to When I try this, I click on… by pwpisano
Maybe.
In reply to Is there a way to create… by memeweaver
Enter that as a quarter note then change the notehead using the Inspector.
In reply to Enter that as a quarter note… by Marc Sabatella
Yes that was the cosmetic surgery I was hoping to avoid as there is an awful lot of it required in some scores.
In reply to Is there a way to create… by memeweaver
See https://musescore.org/en/handbook/3/layout-and-formatting#style-score and Display note values across measure boundaries
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In reply to See https://musescore.org/en… by Jojo-Schmitz
Thank you. That looked promising, but it kills tied notes across measure boundaries. In the example I submitted, that means the first beat of the bar is affected. So it's a trade-off between which notes I have to cosmetically repair.
In reply to Thank you. That looked… by memeweaver
Well, that indeed it the purpose of that option. And it is score wide, so you can't pllay it just to a single occasion
In reply to Well, that indeed it the… by Jojo-Schmitz
I thought it would distinguish between single notes carried over, and distinct notes tied together. It can't be difficult to distinguish those cases.
In reply to I thought it would… by memeweaver
Same thing really. But you could use slurs as a workaround
In reply to Same thing really. But you… by Jojo-Schmitz
You really can't tell the difference between a whole note and an explicitly notated tie? Sounds perverse.
Slurs wreck playback. So you zero out between two opposing issues in a single bar.
In reply to You really can't tell the… by memeweaver
Then only the hard way remain, using quarter note and changing notehead to half. Also messes up playback BTW., unless you tie to another quarter and make tie and that other quarter invisible, whioch makes it yet another step more cumbersome
In reply to Then only the hard way… by Jojo-Schmitz
One always hopes that these discussions will one day turn into fixes or features. The work-arounds for many of these are incredibly cumbersome, especially when you have the same musical structures repeated and Musescore doesn't copy/preserve everything on copy, so you have to manually adjust hundreds of notes and annotations individually.
In reply to You really can't tell the… by memeweaver
> "You really can't tell the difference between a whole note and an explicitly notated tie? Sounds perverse."
No MuseScore can't, because the whole note doesn't exist in it's internal structure. It's also a tied note.
The internal structure does not really allow for non-measure-duration-matching content.
So what the across measure boundaries option does (intended for older music) and marked experimental(!) is attempt to show those notes that are currently tied across a boundary back into a single note.
In reply to > "You really can't tell the… by jeetee
There is no record of the fact that a note has been entered and tied to an earlier note, rather than being the artefact of a note crossing a measure? (In other contexts such as digital ink for handwriting, there is the concept of a stroke which retains its own integrity even if apparently connected to other strokes in a manner that obscures its individuality).
Aside from specifics, is there any intent to supported line-break/wraps in measures rather than artificially breaking the measures and introducing all these other complications>
In reply to There is no record of the… by memeweaver
Having a distiction between a 'manual' added tie and a 'generated' tie would be usefull, for example for an insert mode, that pushes notes accross barline (measure boundaries), but so far doesn't exist.
There no intention to allow for mid measure system breaks, and with the Split Measure function also no need for it