Add 22ma Treble Clef and 22mb Bass Clef, or remove 22ma/mb Lines
There are 22ma and 22mb lines, but only 15ma treble clefs and 15mb bass clefs... so why not 22ma/22mb clefs? I know that the 22ma treble clef and the 22mb bass clef (as well as the lines) are very rarely used in sheet music, but I think it would make the application more consistent across the board if there were either both 22ma/mb lines and clefs or both 15ma/mb lines and clefs. I recommend either adding a 22ma treble clef and 22mb bass clef, or removing the 22ma/mb lines. Tell me what you think! :)
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Which instrument will use this 22m(a|b) -clefs?
In reply to Which instrument will use… by Ziya Mete Demircan
Actually some of them that uses it are those super big instruments such as the worlds largest Flute, etc cause these often sound 3 (or more) Octaves lower than written.
In reply to Actually one of them that… by s1114182721
It has fallen out of use as it has become generally known that instruments sound an (or more) octave lower or higher than where they were written.
For example: Although Guitar, Bass (and contrabassoon and contrabass) are heard one octave below where they are written, and piccolo (and glockenspiel) is heard one octave above where they are written, they can also be written in a regular (unnumbered) clef, and this is not uncommon.
Currently, there is no need to use any numbered-clefs when the instrument used is octave-transpose unless you come from an overly disciplined school of music.
From the staff/part properties in the score (or in the instrument-xml file) , it can be easily adjusted from which octave the written note will sound.
If it is a little-known, unknown, or invented instrument, a text-note can be written on the score saying "heard three octaves below where it was written".
Maybe in the future there will be a setting place where you can adjust the clefs as you wish (or create your own clefs).
In reply to It has fallen out of use as… by Ziya Mete Demircan
Actually the Super Big Hyperbass flute sounds 3 Octaves Lower than written & is popular so those Transposing Clefs should be used so that the Musician knows.
In reply to Actually the Super Big… by s1114182721
https://www.w3.org/2019/03/smufl13/tables/clefs.html Actually Transposing Clefs have the advantage of giving the Musicians a better understanding so they would read the notes in Concert Pitch while at the same time reading the notes by the Fingerings all on one staff.
In reply to https://www.w3.org/2019/03… by s1114182721
The clef from your image doesn't exist in SMuFL (also what is that littls 5 meant to say?). Nor does a bass clef 22mb (3 ottavas) down exist in SMuFL, as you link clearly shows
Bring this up with the SMuFL folks to get one added, once that has happend we can consider adding it to MuseScore
Those simply don't exist in SMuFL
In reply to Those simply don't exist in… by Jojo-Schmitz
See the SMuFL web page for the supported clef symbols:
https://w3c.github.io/smufl/latest/tables/clefs.html
In reply to See the SMuFL web page for… by DanielR
Which confirms that there is no 22ma or 22mb clef in SMuFL ;-)
In reply to Which confirms that there is… by Jojo-Schmitz
That would would have to be a new update
In reply to That would would have to be… by s1114182721
Request them on the SMuFL side. Once supported/added there, we can support them in MuseScore too