Additional width when adding a second voice
Hey there folks, hope you're doing well. MuseScore seems to add additional space to accomodate a second voice where the note head is at the same pitch:
Let's start with a second voice where note is different, this doesn't change the horizontal position of the quavers (1/8th notes).
But when the second voice is moved to the same pitch as the first, additional horizontal space is added:
This especially looks a little ugly (imho) in a situation such as that below:
I have tested the same scenario in Lilypond and Dorico and neither add this extra width, ensuring that alignment is even. Here's how Lilypond renders this:
And the second passage:
Apart from editing spacing of every note where this happens, is there any other way to avoid this behaivour in MuseScore?
Thank you
Fotis
Comments
Handbook to the rescue: https://musescore.org/en/handbook/3/noteheads#shared-noteheads
Turn the shorter notehead invisible.
In reply to Handbook to the rescue:… by jeetee
Beautiful, that does work well. Thanks so much for your help.
Interestingly, in the docs you linked, even when note heads are not combined, the spacing is what I wanted. But I've tried versions of MuseScore all the way back to 3.0 and the spacing I get is wider.
For example, here's the score from the example at https://musescore.org/en/handbook/3/noteheads#shared-noteheads
Yet all versions of MuseScore from 3.0 to the latest alpha produce the following
Is there perhaps a setting that I'm missing to change this behaviour while keeping two separate noteheads?
Huge love and thanks
Fotis
In reply to Beautiful, that does work… by fgimian
If it's just a single-instrument score with no time relation to other staves, then you could select the beam and check "local relayout" for it. This means it'll disregard other voices/staves when distributing the notes within the beam.
If it's a score with more staves (or even for a single staff score as well) the more "correct" fix is to select those 2nd notes and reduce the leading space on them.
In reply to If it's just a single… by jeetee
Thanks so much for the detailed reply, really appreciate it!
This is a known issue indeed, and seems not yet fixed in the current builds of MuseScore 4. See #323925: Shared unison noteheads and separate unison noteheads: spacing anomalies with dotted notes
In reply to This is a known issue indeed… by Marc Sabatella
Sincerest thanks for your reply Marc, I'll keep an eye on the issue for updates. 🥰
I just wanted to pop in and say that this seems to have been fixed in the latest nightly build of MuseScore (after the private alpha release).
I'm hoping this is intentional and just wanted to say a huge HUGE thanks to the MuseScore team for sorting this out!!! 🎉
Cheers
Fotis
In reply to I just wanted to pop in and… by fgimian
Yes, there were quite a few engraving improvements made in the past couple of weeks, and this was one of them. I was happy to see it happen too!
In reply to Yes, there were quite a few… by Marc Sabatella
It's so so awesome and makes a huge difference to that one score I was working on. I'm just absolutely in love with MuseScore 4 and am using the alpha for some little transcriptions I'm working on.
Just wanted to say thanks again for this improvement ❤️
In reply to It's so so awesome and makes… by fgimian
> "am using the alpha for some little transcriptions I'm working on"
Just keep in mind that the Alpha is to be considered not stable/suitable for actual work and be prepared to lose whatever you have notated in it.
In reply to > "am using the alpha for… by jeetee
Yep, will definitely not be using it for anything too serious. These transcriptions are rewrites of music I've already written in Lilypond. 😊
Thanks so much
Fotis