Fonts without Issues?
Hello,
I've run into problems with fonts.
Edwin doesn't print many accidentals, time signatures, etc. on our HP printer.
Hyphens (-) and equal signs (=) don't appear in Staff Text (maybe other characters in other types of texts, too, but this one I noticed) when using Bravura Text.
I've also encountered problems with Emmentaler and Leland, but apologies for not remembering what those were; it was a while ago. All I remember is to not use them as there were issues.
- Is there a font that works for everything, and is acceptable by most engravers/publishers in the US and Europe?
A font where all accidentals, lines, text, characters, etc. work all the time? Where a score can be created in Musescore, and the PDF and final printing from a Mac to an HP printer will all look the same? Where what I'm working with in Musescore actually looks like what'll print out in the end without surprises?
Thanks.
Comments
It is most probably not Edwin, but Leland (the accidentals and time sig issue). And a Mac and using AirPrint rather than the HP driver. See #316152: Some characters do not print from Leland on certain printer drivers on Mac
For Hyphens (-) and equal signs (=) in system or staff text use Edwin, the default
In reply to It is most probably not… by Jojo-Schmitz
Wish I was a computer person who could help with this stuff...
After reading that thread I'm confused, seems like some suggestions were later found to not work.
Some fonts don't show certain characters in System and Staff text, some don't show the note in Tempo text, etc.
What is the winning combination?
""Workarounds:
Don't use Leland, but Emmentaler, Gonville or Bravura
Export to PDF and print that
Don't use AirPrint, but print using the HP driver""
I have issues with all three of those fonts. Emmentaler isn't in my dropdown list of fonts under Format -> Style, neither is Gonville but seems like that is called Gootville here, but Gootville and Bravura both don't show text characters such as the "=" or "-" in Staff or System text.
Is there one font to use for everything, that works if exported to PDF and then printed using HP driver on a Mac, and is in the drop down menus under Style?
A font that will print things exactly the way they appear when editing scores in Musescore?
Thanks again.
In reply to Wish I was a computer person… by RogerRabbit95
Sure Emmentaler is there, as is Gonville. Internally Emmentaler is called MScore and Gonville is called Gootville, but certainly not in Format Style > Score.
Those 3 workarounds are alternatives, one or the other or the 3rd. All 3 have been confirmend to work, independant of one another.
Gonville and Bravura are not used for system text, that'd be Edwin! And of course those do show "=" and "-".
In reply to Wish I was a computer person… by RogerRabbit95
Emmentaler was the default Musical Font before 3.6., now it is Leland
Emmentaler Text was the default Musical Text Font before 3.6, now it is Leland Text
Free Serif was the default plain text font before 3.6, now it is Edwin.
Of these only Leland has that issue with HP printers over AirPrint on Macs
In reply to Emmentaler was the default… by Jojo-Schmitz
Great, thanks!
I've decided to go Times, after all that. Everything seems to work, and it's accepted for most classical-esque ensembles. Not the best looking, love Leland, but it seems to work.
Thanks again for your help.
In reply to Great, thanks! I've decided… by RogerRabbit95
Times is not a Musical font, wont help with key and time signatures , accidentals and clefs
It may only get used instead of Edwin (and was the default text font in MuseScore 1.x)
In reply to Times is not a Musical font,… by Jojo-Schmitz
I did a test print of the first page with Times, and it looks like everything is there: articulations, accidentals, time signatures, key signatures, etc.
Will I run into problems later using Times?
Many times things look good, I edit for a couple of hours, and then see there's a problem with some kind of element that appears later.
Thanks.
In reply to I did a test print of the… by RogerRabbit95
With Times you won't solve the Leland/Mac/Airprint/HP printer issue, that's 100% sure.
And I see no reason to use Times instead of Edwin.
In reply to I did a test print of the… by RogerRabbit95
As mentioned, Times is not a music font and thus doesn't contain any of those symbols. These symbols are not coming from Times, but from whatever music font you have selected.
In reply to As mentioned, Times is not a… by Marc Sabatella
Thank you both for your help and time.
Should I:
In reply to Thank you both for your help… by RogerRabbit95
Yes
In reply to Yes by Jojo-Schmitz
Vielen dank, Herr Schmitz and Mr. Sabatella.