ABC import stopped working
The plug in that imports ABC files has stopped working. I get the bellow error message and a blank page if I try to import. Here is my program version:
OS: Windows 10 (10.0), Arch.: x86_64, MuseScore version (64-bit): 3.6.2.548021803,
revision: 3224f34
plugin abc_import
This happens whether I try to open an abc file or copy and paste into the box and is happening across two machines I have musescore on
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Yes, see #304539: ABC import fails
In reply to Yes, see #304539: ABC import… by Jojo-Schmitz
Hi there, are there plans to replace the workaround with an offline workable solution, and if yes, what is the time frame? Thanks!
In reply to Hi there, are there plans to… by RAc_Musescore
As soon as Mu4's plugin API gets back the needed functionality
The Mu3 version is working already
In reply to As soon as Mu4's plugin API… by Jojo-Schmitz
Thanks, but that does not appear to work. I tried 3.5. The plugin manager told me that the abc import plugin would need an internet connection, and abc files do not show up on the file open dialog. Which 3.x version do I need to install?
Thanks again!
In reply to Thanks, but that does not… by RAc_Musescore
I now tried 3.0, but that one also claims to need an internet connection to work. If that is the case, it is a knockout criterion as most of my musical activity takes place where there is no internet available...
In reply to Thanks, but that does not… by RAc_Musescore
Any 3.x should do. But indeed needs an Internet connection
In reply to Any 3.x should do by Jojo-Schmitz
Ok, bummer, need to look for an alternative to MuseScore then. Thanks anyway for your work!
I was previously using abc2xml.appspot.com website to convert to xml. This has stopped working also (Server Error).
I'd like to install the plugin to my MuseScore v3.6.2 so I can benefit when this is solved. Where do I get the plugin and instructions on how to install?
Colin
In reply to I was previously using… by NauticalMac
Not also, that exactly is the problem, as that plugin uses that service
In reply to Not also, that exactly is… by Jojo-Schmitz
Never been interested into that yet, so I don't know the state of the "market".
Quickly googling ABC musxml converter gives several results from musxml to ABC but at first sight not the other way around.
Could it be possible that a common simple solution doesn't exist ?
If so I might be interested to write something...
But would certainly not try that if several packages doing it already exist.
In reply to Never been interested into… by frfancha
See https://musescore.org/en/project/abcimpex
In reply to See https://musescore.org/en… by Jojo-Schmitz
Thanks.
That's the one that has stopped working ?
So there is some coding required ?
In reply to Thanks. That's the one that… by frfancha
No, that's the one that still works and is the workaround for the other, https://musescore.org/en/handbook/3/plugins#abc-import, which uses the online services, which broke
In reply to No, that's the one that… by Jojo-Schmitz
Oh ok. No real need to start yet another one then. Good to know.
In reply to Never been interested into… by frfancha
@frfancha >> "Could it be possible that a common simple solution doesn't exist ?
If so I might be interested to write something ..."
I miss the abc importer.
abc is a substantially adequate interchange language.
If we don't find a solution it would be wonderful if you wrote something:
• abc-to-MuseScore
• museScore-to-abc
• abc-to-MusicXML
• MusicXML-to-abc
That said, does anybody know why the server (that the plug-in referenced) is down? Seems like a non-server solution would be ideal, particularly if it's not a musescore server.
Scorster
In reply to @frfancha >> "Could it be… by scorster
Again: that solution already exists, see above. And that online web service seems down/broken
In reply to Again: that solution already… by Jojo-Schmitz
If there's a solution for the Mac—short of installing Python and running the app from the Unix command line—I'd like to know about that. I think the Python workaround is rather steep for the average user so it would be great to see something simpler down the road. Hopefully in v4.
The plug-in (when it was able to access the app spot server) was elegant. And from the users' perspective everything happened within MuseScore.
Scorster
In reply to If there's a solution for… by scorster
As far as I can tell, the ABC Import/Export plugin does require you to install Python, but not to run anything from the command line - its purpose seems to handle that detail for you. So, it's a few minutes extra work to setup, yes, but after that should be as painless as the builtin ABC import plugin. But I haven't tested this to be sure, and I don't have a Mac to test on anyhow.
As I mentioned elsewhere, the real solution here is for someone to take the steps needed to restore the online converter. That would be useful to MuseScore users who wish to import ABC, yes, but also though the even larger group of ABC users in general.
In reply to Never been interested into… by frfancha
The online converter on appspot that the built-in plugin relies on uses Willem Vree's very excellent abc2xml converter. He was an equally excellent xml2abc converter. The ABC Import/Export plugin mentioned previously uses these exact same tools (abc2xml and xml2abc); it just requires you to install them locally instead of accessing them via AppSpot. Which is a relatively minor inconvenience on Windows since Willem provides EXE files. It's a rather larger inconvenience on Linux, and a larger one still on macOS, since it requires you to have Python installed and to run from the command line.
So, if someone is interested in improving the situation, I think the best course of action is to create a new online server for abc2xml to replace the one that is no longer working. As far as I know, setting up something like that is pretty simple if you're comfortable with PHP or similar technologies. Or it could be worth contacting Willem to see if it's something he would be interested in or knows more about - he already has an online host for one of his other tools. Or reach out to lasconic to see if he is interested in getting the old appspot server back up and running - could well be something really trivial that is getting in the way.
I should mention also, I'm really unclear on exactly what appspot is. I gather it relates to Google App Engine somehow, but it's kind of mysterious to me.
In reply to The online converter on… by Marc Sabatella
I think that plugin handles this also on Linux and Mac, and even on Windows when using the Python scripts rather than the exe files. Only Python(.exe) needs to be installed (a given on Linux and IMHO on Mac too) and in PATH (again, usually a given in Linux)
In reply to The online converter on… by Marc Sabatella
Apologies for being technically challenged. Would someone be so kind as to list out step-by-step what needs to be done to get an abc file imported into Musescore3 and vice versa, now the plug in option has conked out. I have a desktop running Windows 10, 64 bit. Regards.
In reply to Apologies for being… by Dicklybongos
Download the updated plugin from https://musescore.org/en/project/abc-import and install it according the instructions from https://musescore.org/en/handbook/3/plugins
Feel free to ask if anything is unclear to you and we'll try to help you through it.
Updated importer plugin available from the linked issue.
In reply to Updated importer plugin… by jeetee
Aweseome, thanks for tackling that!
In reply to Updated importer plugin… by jeetee
While I was at it, also enabled the exporter script as a webservice: https://musescore.org/en/project/abc-export
In reply to While I was at it, also… by jeetee
abc-export is a nice addition. And good timing ... for the first time ever I've wanted to export a MuseScore file to abc.
Thanks for working on this!! But I have some comments.
On running the plug-in on MacOS I saw two buttons:
• Clicking the Export button changed the button's name to "Exporting ..." and a moment laster the plugin closed. I wasn't given an opportunity to enter a file name or set the file destination. So I searched my directory for the newest .abc file never found an exported abc file with today's date.
• Clicking the Browse button displayed a standard Open File dialog, so that confused me. When exporting what would one be browsing for? I'm wondering if that's a quick-n-dirty method for setting the file destination.
Presently I'm a bit confused and excitedly looking forward to exporting to abc format.
Scorster
In reply to abc-export is a nice… by scorster
It was very quickly thrown together during lunch break, which explains the lack of obvious UX..
The browse button should allow you to select the export location (a folder/directory). The plugin is also supposed to remember this folder.
The file is then named according to the
scoreNameproperty of it (so derived from the existing file name) and have the .abc extension.In reply to It was very quickly thrown… by jeetee
jeetee wrote>> The Browse button should allow you to select the export location (a folder/directory). The plugin is also supposed to remember this folder.
Ah ...The name "Select export folder" would be more apt.
And it worked. Now that I've designated an export folder the plugin exports perfectly, as best I can tell. A round trip (export/import) produced a nearly identical MuseScore file!
Great work and many thanks!!
Scorster
Hi all, I tried to post this elsewhere, but I am technologically challenged, couldn’t even figure out how to post anything! Anyway, I too have failed at the ABC import plugin recently. Here is what I've done, please help spread the word, or "tell me where to go" (LOL) if this is the wrong place:
From the ABC vs sheet music options (example - as in thesession.org ) I saved the sheet music option as a pdf. Then I downloaded or imported the pdf file into musescore via the "convert your pdf file" link on the musescore site.. Then it opens up in MuseScore. Not perfect, but close enough for government work.... at least it's a start and I can now tweak the tune as I want it to be played.
Wow - I'm a semi-happy camper. Or maybe you've already figured this out?
Sue T
In reply to [inline:L'Air Mignonne by… by SueTendy@hvc.rr.com
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In reply to What about #304539: ABC… by Jojo-Schmitz
Another way to convert ABC to MusicXML is to use EasyABC which you can find at https://sourceforge.net/projects/easyabc/
1.3.8.6 is available for windows and 1.3.8 is available for Mac
Windows https://sourceforge.net/projects/easyabc/files/EasyABC/1.3.8.6/
Mac https://sourceforge.net/projects/easyabc/files/EasyABC/1.3.8/
If you know how to compile source code then 1.3.8.6 could be compiled for Mac and Linux as well.
In reply to [inline:L'Air Mignonne by… by SueTendy@hvc.rr.com
HI Sue,
Don't bother with PDF—the conversions are generally problematic
You can download to .abc format, but it's simpler and faster to simply copy/paste into MuseScore's abc plugin.
At theSession.org
• Locate a piece of interest
• you'll see ABC / Score tabs above each setting
• click ABC
• Copy the text you see, for example:
X: 17
T: The Kesh
R: jig
M: 6/8
L: 1/8
K: Gmaj
D|:"G" G3 GAB|"D" A2A ABd|"C" edd "G" gdd|"C" edB "D" dBA|
"G" G3 GAB|"D" A2A ABd|"C" edd "G" gdB|1 "D" AGF "G" G2D:|2 "D" AGF "G" G2A||
|:"G" B3 dBd|"C" ege "G" dBA|"G" B2B dBG|"D" A2A AGA|
"G" B2B dBd|"C" ege "G" dBd|"C" gfg "D" aga|1 "G" bgf g2A:|2 "G" bgf g2D||
Back in museScore
• make sure you have the latest version of the abc plugin
• if installed you'll see it in the Plugins menu, entitled: ABC Import (jt) *
• select ABC Import (jt) from the plugin menu to open it
• click in the large text field
• paste
• if you copied properly you'll see the abc "code" loaded in the field
• press Import
If you don't see ABC Import (jt) in the plugin menu
• Get and install the plugin
• I've attached the abc_import-jt.qml plugin
• on MacOS the plugin should reside in Documents>MuseScore>Plugins
scorster