writing scores with Midi fast!

• Sep 13, 2022 - 22:04

Hi,
I have seen youtube films like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOQGIaaYjWM
This way it takes days to write a long score. I am looking a fast way to do that.
Is there any other way to play the Midi-keyboard and get your notation written on the musescore?
I've heard that you might have other softwar to create the midi files and then import midi files to musescore.
Could it be correct?
Regards


Comments

Indeed, the piano roll editor isn't for creating scores, it's for making fine adjustments to playback. And the while the piano keyboard is there, it is unlikely to ever be as fast as simply typing normally using your computer keyboard You can also use a MIDI keyboard, but it's not faster than typing, just different.

You can create a MIDi file and import that, but the result won't be readable sheet music at all. MIDI was never designed for that, and way too much human decision making is involved in producing readable notation. So it's alsmot always faster to type the music in normally than to first try to record it, then import it, then correct all the things that didn't go well because MIDI is not suited for the task in the first place.

In reply to by Emil SHamloo

"Could this work?"
Sure, MuseScore can open a MIDI file and try to represent it as musical notation. But if you read Marc's comments above, he is strongly advising you against using the MIDI format to import a score.

Try this test with the very simple score [EDIT] which I have now posted below:
1. Save as a MIDI file (File > Export... > Export To: MIDI)
2. Close the MuseScore file
3. In MuseScore open the new MIDI file with File > Open... > MIDI Files (*.mid *.midi *.kar)
4. Notice how much musical information has been lost when importing the MIDI file

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In reply to by Pentatonus

Oh dear, I posted the wrong score...
The corrected score is now attached to my post above as a replacement.

My point was that using MIDI to export and import score notation is unreliable. In this case a problem showed up.
Original score used to export a MIDI file:
Original score before MIDI export.png

Resulting score after import of the MIDI file:
Changed score after importing MIDI file.png

In reply to by Emil SHamloo

As I said, it's possible, yes. For trivially smile examples like the one shown initially in the video, it could even about as fast as entering the music normally. For music that has any complexity whatsoever, though, you will almost certainly spend far more time trying to edit the MIDi data to produce readable notation than you would just entering the notation to begin with. Especially if you're not already an expert user of MuseScore - entering notes from scratch is far simpler than figuring out how to convert raw MIDI into readable notation.

The analogy I often make is to Siri. For a simple text message, sure, it works great. But if you're trying to produce a document of any complexity, it's going to be easier to enter it into a word processor normally. You'll spend longer fixings the errors, adding punctuation and formatting, etc, than you would just typing it.

In reply to by Emil SHamloo

Sure, lots of programs can attempt to do this same as MuseScore. But the limitations of MIDI don't go away just because you use a different program. The format itself simply lacks the information needed to produce notation. It's designed for performance, not for producing readable scores. So any program that attempts to produce notation from it will need to rely on AI to attempt to do the things you could have done yourself much more easily and accurately, and it's still going to require much more expertise to fix than to simply enter the music normally, except in the most trivial of cases.

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