Tenor Sax transposition & audio is not working correctly
Hi there. The tenor sax parts and sound in Musescore seems to playback an Octave lower than written in concert, and does not transpose correctly.
ie, if I display parts in concert pitch and enter a middle C on a trumpet, alto, and tenor part, the tenor part is playing back an Octave lower than it should, and it is also not transposing up a Maj 9th as it should.
Is there a fix for this? Is there a workaround?
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Score needed. If I create a score with a Tenor Sax, it does transpose a major 9th (actually an octave plus a major second), in Mu3 and Mu4
In reply to Score needed. If I created a… by Jojo-Schmitz
Strange. I'll attach a file when I get back to the office, but all i do is create a brand new score and add tpt and tnr and the tnr plays back one octave too low, and does not transpose correctly. At fist I thought it was user error, but I have students also bringing me charts and the tenor is playing back in the wrong octave. I use Finale primarily and it doesn't work this way in Finale, but I'm trying to switch to musescore as many students use it. thanks
In reply to Score needed. If I created a… by Jojo-Schmitz
I see the problem now. The tenor sax part (when created from musescore) defaults to the Octave treble clef when in 'concert view' for some reason. Why would this be? Picture attached of concert view and transposed view.
In reply to I see the problem now. The… by joeldadrummer
It's strange to me why Musescore would default to what is considered the 'vocal tenor clef' for the tenor sax in concert.
"The octave treble clef with the number 8 printed below is also known as the vocal tenor clef. The vocal tenor clef is used in vocal music for the male tenor voice part to indicate that the tenor voice actually sounds an octave lower that where it is notated in the normal treble clef. The vocal tenor clef should not be confused with the C clef that is also named tenor clef."
In reply to I see the problem now. The… by joeldadrummer
As Tenor sax is octave transposing (plus a major second) showing it untransposed in a regular treble clef would end up with loads of ledger lines
In reply to As Tenor sax is octave… by Jojo-Schmitz
Putting it in 'Vocal tenor clef 'creates even more ledger lines if you want it to play in the correct octave, and is not accurate at all. Finale puts Tenor Sax in Bass clef in Concert, Sibelius puts it in regular Treble Clef. Musescore using a clef designed for vocalists to easily read an octave lower is not helping, or accurate, and creates a lot of confusion. This should be changed. Please ask some arrangers or woodwind players.
In reply to As Tenor sax is octave… by Jojo-Schmitz
If I want a Tenor sax to play (and sound) concert C5, using the 'vocal tenor clef' would mean having to write it an octave higher than it should be. It makes no sense at all.