Extra default portamento in 4.11?
With 4.1.1 the sound of the violin is great, but the playback has lots of portamento that I don't want. I've attached an image and score of the simple sequence of notes I tested with. It's just quarter notes with no articulation markings. I tried to upload an exported mp3 so that people could hear how much portamento there is but I guess you can't attach those to these postings, so I put it at http://snee.com/temp/portamento.mp3 where people can hear it.
(Also, I set the reverb to 0 for this on the mixer but can still hear plenty; is there a setting I'm missing to make that drier?)
Thanks,
Bob
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Comments
I agree. That's terrible. I doubt a real player would play like that. One or two of those as part of a longer expressive phrase? Maybe.
Violin 1 is the "expressive" Romantic-style solo violin. For a more "square" style, choose violin 2.
I hear no reverb in your examplel; just natural vibrato.
In reply to Violin 1 is the "expressive"… by Marc Sabatella
As a violinist, I wouldn't play it like that and in particular not without any expressive marks.
In reply to As a violinist, I wouldn't… by TomStrand
I agree. Thank you for your input.
In reply to Violin 1 is the "expressive"… by Marc Sabatella
Thanks! I couldn't find violin 2 in the stave/part properties instrument list but I did find it in the mixer. That is better.
Reverb: I replaced each quarter note with an eighth + eighth rest pair, made it ff, and put it at http://www.snee.com/temp/portamentoTestEighths.mp3. (I also double checked that the reverb knob for the violin was set to 0.) You will hear lots of reverb in this mp3 file despite the reverb setting being at 0.
Bob
In reply to Thanks! I couldn't find… by bobdc
I'm still not hearing it. Are you sure you don't mean vibrato?
And indeed, the 1 & 2 variants for violins are sounds, not instruments. The instrument is still just viiolin.
In reply to I'm still not hearing it. … by Marc Sabatella
I even hear the reverb when I click my newest link to play the mp3 on my phone. Each eighth note hangs over a little into the eighth rest like it's being played in an empty church.
I do hear a little vibrato when the notes are being played, but I hear as described above between the notes.
In reply to Thanks! I couldn't find… by bobdc
I hear the reverb in your mp3. On my system I can turn off reverb completely. Of course, there is no vibrato on these 8th notes.
In reply to I hear the reverb in your… by bobjp
You're turning off the reverb completely with MuseScore 4.11? In the mixer I have turned it off for the individual parts. In the Master dropdown I have "No effect" checked. Looking for another place to control re erb, I tried using the Mixer's "..." menu to display Audio FX and then turned Muse Reverb all the way down (and later, off) but that had no effect.
When I'm editing, if I click an existing note, I hear it with no reverb, but during playback I hear reverb with all the notes.
After reading Marc's comments on https://musescore.org/en/node/338057 I wonder if the problem is that I am using this on an Ubuntu Linux setup...
In reply to You're turning off the… by bobdc
I am on Linux as well, and it works exactly as expected for me. Maybe what you are hearing is not actual reverb but just the actual sound of the room the sample was recorded in? It sounds like a pretty dead room to me, but no doubt some subtle reflections occur and perhaps you are picking up on that? Do you at least hear it's very obviously much drier than the default?
In reply to I am on Linux as well, and… by Marc Sabatella
I think I stumbled across a workaround that seems to have worked for the simple little demo file I was using for this, but it doesn't yet work for the string quartet score where I really want it to work. I used the Mixer's "..." menu to get to "Playback setup" and changed the profile to MuseScore basic, and then played it, and heard just a touch of room reverb but not the churchy reverb I was getting before. Then, when I switched it back to use the Muse Sounds profile, it played without all that extra reverb.
I'm going to keep trying with the quartet file when I have more time to devote to it.