Combining bars with identical content
Is there a quick way in MuseScore 4 to combine/merge bars that have the same content? What I mean is, for example, the first bar is the same as the second, I want to cut the second bar and merge it with the first - an example of the effect I want to achieve is presented in the graphics below.
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You write double notes then move the lower or upper notes in unison.
Look at the attachments.
Excuse my English but I don't know the language.
In reply to You write double notes then… by Claudio Riffero
Your answer gave me, I think, a pretty good idea.
Finally, I can remove the second instrument from the score.
The method works, it doesn't seem slow, but maybe someone knows an even better method?
In reply to Twoja odpowiedź zasugerowała… by jp2137
You could also enter your scale in voice 1. Then enter the same scale in voice 2. Select the stem of the first note that is pointing up. Right click and Select>More>Same voice>OK. Hit the flip direction icon in the tool bar.
Another way:
![merge.png]( "merge.png")
bobjp and Jm6stringer - the catch is that in my notation I need the notes to be only in the first voice:
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In reply to bobjp and Jm6stringer - the… by jp2137
Then as a last step, select a note that is not voice 1 and hit the voice 1 in the tool bar. Either one not at a time, or select all in the same voice and hit voice one.
In reply to Then as a last step, select… by bobjp
This then gives a pretty good overall result, although at the end you have to remove the pauses that remain in the second voice.
In reply to bobjp and Jm6stringer - the… by jp2137
This is not a criticism, but just a question for my own edification. Why or what is the purpose of such notation, and why only in the first voice? It just seems less readable to me. Will it change how playback sounds in Musescore or some other software? Just want to know what I might be missing.
In reply to This is not a criticism, but… by garytemp
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In reply to Excuse me, why don't you… by Claudio Riffero
One case - it's very common when playing chords on stringed instruments where notes are duplicated. For example a simple chord of G major on the Ukulele:
![uke_g.png]( "uke_g.png")
Another example would be 1-5 power chords on a Guitar
In reply to One case - it's very common… by rothers
Thank you rothers. I know nothing about stringed instruments so that helps.
In reply to This is not a criticism, but… by garytemp
Yes, it is related to playback. I use Muse Sounds, which can be tricky when it comes to intonation. Adding another note of the same pitch in the first voice eliminates this problem. Then I hide the note head by clicking the Shift + X combination or I select in the properties that the note head should be invisible and thus improve the readability of the notation. Maybe you know a better way to improve the intonation of Muse samplers in MuseScore? I mentioned this problem in another topic (https://musescore.org/en/node/358693), here is a link to a video with an example of this bug: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkXsMkmKRCA
In reply to bobjp and Jm6stringer - the… by jp2137
There is no need to mess about with voices. Enter a note - say a C then enter it again but holding shift. This gives a chord of two Cs an octave apart. Then immediately press CTRL + Down arrow. This shifts the last entered C down an octave and automatically flips the notehead. Both Cs are in voice 1.
Step by step it goes.
N - to start note entry mode
5 - select quarter note duration
C - enter a C
SHIFT+C - to add a C an octave higher
CNTRL+DOWN ARROW - to move that higher note back to the same pitch as the first C.
Select the notes, press [Alt] 1?
In reply to Select the notes, press [Alt… by underquark
This is the best solution that has appeared so far. Thank you very much!
In reply to Select the notes, press [Alt… by underquark
Vedi allegato
Here are a couple of observations.
It would have been helpful if in your first post you had stated the reason you needed this and the full result you were after. As it is you got several answers that were not what you wanted.
Re. the sax out of tune. When I set up a score as in your video, the C seems be sounding two notes at once. Not good, of course. The effect seems to be worse when the C comes after a D. But not when the C comes after a B. Or most any other note.
Doubling the notes does help the tunning. But it also takes away much of the character of the sound. Playback is more dull. More like the Basic sounds. I guess it might be a toss-up.
Also posting a score might be more helpful than just a video.
For example, play the attached score. It has several D to C combinations. I don't hear the same pitch problems that seem to be caused by whole notes. I'm not sure why.
Again, just some observations.
In reply to Here are a couple of… by bobjp
Perhaps I could have written my first post more precisely, although I tried to present it concisely. Basically, this is just a part of the whole issue that occurs with the combination of MuseScore + Muse Sounds. Regarding intonation, people in other posts have also pointed out issues with the oboe. Other problems include "popping" or disappearing sounds, incorrectly processed dynamics, articulation, etc. It doesn't seem random to me; these are rather specific errors related to particular situations in notation and instrument choice, as in the case of playing D and C# consecutively on the saxophone. I think over time, programmers will pay attention to this and address it. Either MuseScore doesn't handle these samplers well, or the samplers themselves need improvement. For now, I'm trying to cope with these issues in unconventional ways. By the way, I don't entirely agree that doubling notes makes the sound more flat/dull/basic. In my opinion, it sounds very good, I would even say it's the best among all free saxophone-imitating samplers. Yes, tiny deviations from the correct pitch, a slightly "wavy" sound can make it more natural, giving the impression of being enriched with more aliquot tones, but they shouldn't be as significant as the irregularities in the example we're discussing.
In reply to Perhaps I could have written… by jp2137
I will be the very first person to tell you that Muse sounds are far from perfect. Eventually things may get fixed.
Had you said in your first post why you wanted to "combine content", (unclear to begin with) This thread would be 6 posts shorter and people wouldn't have spent time posting solutions that weren't what you needed. And would have given you correct answers much sooner.
Yes, the whole note combination D to C# causes the C# to sound incorrectly. But my file shows that that may be the only combination so affected. Maybe.
Yes, there are problems with the oboe.
The fade problems do not happen on my system.
The last popping post had to do with a final quarter note that was the end of a slur, that had a staccato and accent with PP dynamic. That, to me, is questionable notation.
I compose. For playback. So playback is very important to me. I had a situation where flute and oboe caused a strange overtone. Individually, the instruments sounded fine. But together on a certain section, they did not. I changed the oboe to English horn and the problem when away. In other situations I have changed what I wrote to avoid a problem. I learned long ago that you can't just write whatever you want in notation software. Recorded sounds don't work the same way real sounds do.
And on my system, doubling the sax notes sucks all the life out of the sound. But you need to do what you need to do.
In reply to I will be the very first… by bobjp
I know that perhaps some of my comments have been out of line.
In reply to I know that perhaps some of… by bobjp
No biggie