Repeat 3 Times
Hi,
I am trying to create a piece that contains a 16 bar section that is repeated 4 times but on the 4th time through the last 3 bars are different. When I look at the Repeats & Jumps Palette (Musescore 4) I can see 4 Voltas: Prima Volta, Seconda Volta Open, Seconda Volta and Terza Volta. I can set my first set of 16 bars to Terza Volta, but for my last set of 3 bars I thought I would need a Quarta Volta (please forgive my Spanish!) but I can't see one. I tried to use the Terza Volta again and tried to change the number 3 to 4 but M4 won't let me select the text number to edit it. I believe that M3 had an Inspector palette that allowed you to do what I need. How do I do this in M4 please?
Many thanks for your help
Chris
Comments
You can create a quarta volta yourself, like from a terza volta: change the number and the play list via its properties
In reply to You can create a quarta vola… by Jojo-Schmitz
Many thanks Jojo. I will try your suggestion.
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The voltas you find in the palette are editable in the Properties panel. The numbers (and playback order) can be changed to fit as needed. In your case, it appears that you would have the voltas labelled like this:
See:
https://musescore.org/en/handbook/4/voltas#change-playback
The important parameters are found in the Properties panel (click on a volta line to select it and view its properties).
For the playback order - the Style tab is where the repeat list 1,2,3 is set for the first volta; 4 is set for the second volta.
For the actual text (i.e., the displayed numbers) - the Text tab is where you type what shows beneath the volta line in the score.
You wrote:
...the 4th time through the last 3 bars are different.
So, to make the volta line span 3 bars you can select the 3 measures and then add the volta from the palette
-OR-
If you need to span more (or fewer) measures with the volta line, see:
https://musescore.org/en/handbook/4/adjusting-elements-directly#change-…
Here's a sample score with repeat 3 times and then a "Quarta Volta":
Voltas.mscz
EDIT: The measure with the end repeat barline needs to have its 'Play count' set. See:
https://musescore.org/en/handbook/4/measure-properties#other
and #3 here:
https://musescore.org/en/handbook/4/voltas#change-playback
In reply to The voltas you find in the… by Jm6stringer
Many thanks Jm6 - I will try your suggestion.
In reply to Many thanks Jm6 - I will try… by ploggy99@hotma…
I was able to change the numbers in the Text and Style tabs but I must have been confused with the numbering conventions in these tabs as it didn't behave as I expected it to i.e., it only played upto the start of the first volta, then went straight to the second volta. I have managed to work round it by creating a separate section of two times 16 bars; then another section of one times 16 bars and used two Voltas to create a different set of 3 bars. This works fine.
Many thanks for your help.
Regards
Chris
In reply to I was able to change the… by ploggy99@hotma…
Your "workaround" sounds unnecessarily complicated. If you wish to attach the score:
https://musescore.org/en/node/289899
...we will be able to provide more specific advice.
In reply to Your "workaround" sounds… by Jm6stringer
In this 32 bar piece, I want it to run bars 1 - 8 three times, then bars 1 - 5, then bars 9 - 12.
In fact it only runs bars 1 - 5 then stops.....
Your help would be much appreciated.
Regards
Chris
In reply to In this 32 bar piece, I want… by ploggy99@hotma…
You have the play count of the repeated section measure properties set to 2, it should be 4.
You haven't put any repeat list in the volta properties, they should be 1,2,3 & then 4
In reply to In this 32 bar piece, I want… by ploggy99@hotma…
Demonstration in pictures (from MuS 3.x). Similar to MuS 4, look at the properties panel.
The entry under "Text:" (image 2&3 above) is only for the sheet or musician and has no effect in MuseScore. You can write any meaningful text there.
Edit: If you want to lengthen or shorten the voltage line, do not use the small squares and the mouse, but select a square and use the arrow keys while holding down the Shift key.
In reply to Demonstration in pictures … by HildeK
Now that you have read the handbook without understanding how to achieve this, and then seen how to do it from Hilde's explanation, do you have a proposal for how to update the handbook such that you would have been able to understand it directly? What was the part that confused you?
In reply to Demonstration in pictures … by HildeK
Hello HildeK,
Many thanks for this useful explanation. I have amended the REPEAT LIST and BEGIN TEXT for the Voltas but when I highlight bar 8 and look at the measure properties I can't see the PLAY COUNT attribute. I am running MS 4.2.1.240230937
Regards
Chris
In reply to Hello HildeK, Many thanks… by ploggy99@hotma…
Then look again, it it there, I see it.
In reply to Hello HildeK, Many thanks… by ploggy99@hotma…
Or take this
In reply to Hello HildeK, Many thanks… by ploggy99@hotma…
See the chapter in the MuS 4 handbook: https://musescore.org/en/print/book/export/html/329209?toc=1#Measure_pr…
Directly above the 'Apply / Cancel / OK' button there is the setting of the play count.
It is there! :-)
Edit: If not, then you are lookiing at another measure, one that doesn't have an end repeat bar line.
In reply to See the chapter in the MuS 4… by HildeK
When I right click on bar 8 and select Stave/Part Properties this is what I see
Also when I use the View > Properties option this is what I see - and toggling the Appearance tab.
Unfortunately none of these screens show a Play Count feature.
In reply to When I right click on bar 8… by ploggy99@hotma…
Measure properties, not staff properties!
In reply to Measure properties, not… by Jojo-Schmitz
AHA! I have found it - I had to right click on bar 8 then choose the Bar Properties option. Many thanks to everyone for your collective help!
In reply to AHA! I have found it - I had… by ploggy99@hotma…
Oops, yes, Bar properties in the UK, Measure properties in the US 🫣