music drops in volume but there are no dynamics
I cannot figure out why the music is fading out at a certain point. I want to check the mixer, but nothing happens when I click it. (I get that in other projects too since I started using MuseScore 4). Listening again, I think it isn't a smooth fadeout. It suddenly drops in level at m.59 and then drops again to a very low level at 61 and then comes back on at forte in m.70.
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Question: How do you want us to check that "the music is fading out at a certain point" (and possibly find the explanation) by attaching an image? 🙄
In reply to Question: How do you want us… by cadiz1
Maybe this file will be helpful. The volumes definitely change on my computer.
Thanks in advance.
In reply to Maybe this file will be… by edurbrow
No problem on my system.
In reply to No problem on my system. by bobjp
No problem on your system? Does anyone have a theory on how or why that is possible?
Aren't there unseen dynamic commands tucked away somewhere I don't know about?
This is very mysterious.
In reply to Maybe this file will be… by edurbrow
Hello,
The velocity of your notes in the Piano and Acoustic Bass staves is set to 110. By default, the velocity should be set to 64. You have probably imported the notes from another program via an XML file where these excessive values are set.
You can select all notes in the Piano and Acoustic Bass staff and reduce the velocity in the properties under the Play button (from the current 110 to 64). The volume ratio of the staves and chord symbols will then be the same again.
In reply to Hello, The velocity of your… by manra
True, but at no point does the sound fade out as the OP said.
In reply to True, but at no point does… by bobjp
Hi,
I have now looked at the notes individually. Some of the notes in all 3 staves are set to velocity 110, some to 64. This is why the notes are played at different volumes. It would be best to mark the entire score and set the velocity to the standard 64.
Then you can still consciously influence the volume of the voices with dynamic markings.
The OP didn't write about a gentle decay, but that the levels suddenly drop. In my opinion, the different velocity of the notes in all 3 staves is the cause.
In reply to Hi, I have now looked at the… by manra
I can hear the drop in volume from the third measure onwards.
![reset.jpg]( "reset.jpg")
In fact, the problem comes from the MIDI source of the file. It's systematic (or almost, I don't really remember), the file comes like this when you open it (this is an example with one of my MIDI files):
To restore a correct sound, all you have to do is reset in Inspector the two settings (Velocity type and Velocity) with the cross/left arrow. You need to know this.
The OP file now. Select all (Ctrl/Cmd + A) then the "Notes" tab at the bottom of the Inspector, and you'll see that - image below.
Even though the velocity is at 0, it hasn't been reset. Something's been done, wrong or not, I don't know what.
Anyway, reset and, as if by chance, the drop is gone (or rather, it's more balanced, the first two measures no longer assault your ears!).
As soon as you open a new MIDI file, you should check this immediately. The problem is that this reset function has disappeared in V4. Without using XML export, it can be done in 3.7 Evolution.
This is one of the reasons (among many others) why I'm sticking mainly to Version 3.
The file now: 2example of unseen volume changes 6_8 folk_rock.mscz
In reply to I can hear the drop from the… by cadiz1
Thanks for the detailed analysis. I do not use Midi Import and therefore have no experience.
Since it is an MU4 file of the OP I tried to describe the setting in MU4. I am currently also using Musescore version 3.7 (thanks to Yoyo-Schmitz for the updates from version 3.7)
I am currently using MU4 (4.4 nightly) for testing purposes only, as I am missing some functions from MU3 that are important to me.
In reply to Thanks for the detailed… by manra
> I do not use Midi Import
But then you have set the velocity for some notes to a user value!
The default value is "Offset = 0", all other values and value types come from a midi import or a manual setting.
In reply to I can hear the drop from the… by cadiz1
Thank you very much for this detailed explanation. I feel like a complete idiot. I cannot figure out how to get the inspector. I could do it in Musescore 3.
I searched and got this:
The Inspector appears by default on the right. To show or hide it: Press shortcut F8 (Mac: fn + F8 ), or. From the menu, select View and check or uncheck Inspector .
I don't see it in the View menu. No fn key on this keyboard. F8 shows Properites.
In reply to Thank you very much for this… by edurbrow
Those instructions apply only to MuS 3. I thought you were working in MuS 4?
If you are in 4, the "Inspector" is no longer a part of the application. Instead, those functions are in the Properties tab at upper left (next to Palettes and Instruments), which I see you already found.
In reply to Hi, I have now looked at the… by manra
That sounds like you got it. But how did you find what the velocities were? Where do you find velocities?
I'm just trying to learn this program better.
In reply to That sounds like you got it… by edurbrow
I'm not familiar with Mus 4, but in Mus 3 you click on a note and see the settings in the inspector.
I assume in Mus 4 you have to look at the properties of the notes.
In reply to Hello, The velocity of your… by manra
Another weird thing I noticed is that I cannot change the tempo. It seems to be embedded.
In reply to Another weird thing I… by edurbrow
There is no Inspector in MU4. Go to View and select Palettes, Instruments, and Properties. Those give you most of what you need. Select a note, select the Properties palette, Select Playback. There you will see a velocity setting. You can't set the velocity of Muse sounds. You can change Basic sounds. In that same area are dozens of other settings.
There are two ways to change the tempo. There is a tempo palette. You can put 1/4 note = 80 in the score. Change the 80 to the number you want.
You can also select and drag the 6 dots to the left of the rewind button. There you can temporarily change the tempo.
Don't for get to spend some time in the manual.
In reply to There is no Inspector in MU4… by bobjp
"There is no Inspector in MU4." !!! No wonder I can't find it.
Thank you.
"Select Playback." Which one is playback?
As you can see from the screenshot, Mu4 does not play nice with MacOS Monterey on my computer. Sometimes all the choices in the pallets only have one letter instead of words!
In reply to "There is no Inspector in… by edurbrow
I have framed the Playback button in red in the graphic. Please select notes or bars beforehand so that the button is active.
In reply to "There is no Inspector in… by edurbrow
OK. So you don't seem to have full screen showing. There should be a Menu Bar across the top. In Windows F11 toggles one type of full screen. There is also the full screen controls in the upper left. You may need to drag the sides of the window to get it to the size you want. Once done, View (which should be in the top menu bar) will allow you to add palettes as well as a toggle for Muse or Basic sounds.
In reply to OK. So you don't seem to… by bobjp
Thank you for your trouble. I tried clicking but nothing changes. I'm afraid this version of MuseScore just doesn't work with my system very well. I'm just anxious that the next version will be worse because my system is a few years old and on a computer it shouldn't be on (a very old computer) and software is usually meant for the latest OS. No going back to Musescore 3 either, I'm afraid. :-(
In reply to Thank you for your trouble… by edurbrow
What version of Mac OS, and system specs.
You should have a Mac version of this on your screen
![screen.png]( "screen.png")