Doesn't Follow the segno and coda
Hi,
I need your support for the following issue:
The playback doesn't follow the segno and coda. please check the attached file and advise.
Regard,
Wael Kashmiri
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i also could not follow your segnos and codas. They make no sense musically.
A coda is a "tail piece" (coda translates as "tail") and there is usually only one of them which is the last thing played. There needs to be a "To coda" instruction to indicate that the player should jump to the coda. You have no "To coda" marking but 4 codas. A segno is a destination to jump to from a DS (Dal segno). You have have 4 segnos but no DS. If you have more than one segno you need to distinguish between them to indicate which one you want the player to jump to. To be blunt, it is a mess!
Please explain what order you want the different sections to play in. I suspect that what you are hoping for can be achieved quite simply without multiple codas and segnos.
I also suggest you take a few minutes to learn how jump instructions work in musical notation. Start here perhaps: https://www.musictheoryvideos.com/grade-1-repeats/
In reply to i also could not follow your… by SteveBlower
Hi Steve,
Thank you for your prompt response and insightful comments. After reviewing the videos, I now understand the segno and coda functions.
Regarding the attached notation, the author's intention is:
I've labeled sections with letters (A-E) for clarity. However, I'm concerned this notation might not be optimal. I'm exploring alternative solutions.
Best regards,
Wael Kashmiri
In reply to Hi Steve, Thank you for your… by waelkash
Unfortunately, it is difficult to explain what to do or what I did.
It is clearer if you select the various “D.S.”, “To Coda” and coda signs and look in the properties to understand what I did.
And additionally I shortened measure 1 as an upbeat (losing some Arabic text :-( in the process). For the volta notes, I split the measure to make it identical to your template.
In reply to Unfortunately, it is… by HildeK
Thank you a lot. It's amazing.
How did you remove the rest in the 1st measure? Also, how did you split the measure? I tried but failed.
In reply to Thank you a lot. It's… by waelkash
There's two ways to split a measure:
1) From the main menu, Tools / Measures / Split measure before selected note/rest.
2) Begin with two measures. Enter the portion of the measure that is supposed to go before the break in the first measure; enter the portion to go after in the second. Enter the notes in the beginnings of each measure. (Very important!!!) Right-click on one of the measures and from the context menu, click Measure properties... Adjust the measure's Actual duration under Measure duration. At the bottom left of this dialog, there are arrow buttons to move to the next/previous measure to repeat the process.
The second is how you can create a pick-up measure when you forgot to include it in the second page of the New Score dialog. See https://musescore.org/en/handbook/4/pickup-and-non-metered-measures for more information on this topic.
In reply to There's two ways to split a… by TheHutch
Thank you a lot
In reply to Thank you a lot. It's… by waelkash
First, copy and paste the two 16th notes in measures 1: Ctrl+X, select the first rest, Ctrl+V. They move to the first beat.
Then go to measures properties and set the actual value to 1/8.
Split measure: Tools -> Measure -> Split measure before selected note/rest - as TheHutch already said.
In reply to First, copy and paste the… by HildeK
Did it :)
I appreciate your help
In reply to Hi Steve, Thank you for your… by waelkash
The first thing I note is that your "Section A" includes all of "Section C". Uggh! That makes it hard to grok. To deal with that, define "Section A" to be only the intro part before "Section C", that is, the anacrusis and the first two whole measures, beginning before your segno.
Since you had originally defined "Section A" as what we now call sections "A" and "C", that makes the order of sections be A C B C D C E C.
Assuming this to be correct (!!!), we move on to the next problem: Western music theory does not understand nested repeats. So I "expanded" (is there an actual term for this???) all repeats.
What I have at this point is ...
Section A: anacrusis + two measures,
Section C: six measures (formerly three measures repeated)
Section B: four measures (formerly two measures repeated)
Section D: four measures (formerly two measures repeated)
Section E: four measures (formerly two measures repeated)
And you want it to play in order: A C B C D C E C.
The best way I can find to do this is
A C(S) Fine 1) B :| 2) D :| 3) E DSalFine
That is, it plays A as an introit, then C plays as the main theme with B, D, and E, as first, second, and third volta ("endings"). At the end of E, we have a DS al Fine, which returns to the Segno at the beginning of C and plays to the Fine at the end of C.
Which gives us this:
Bayati Sama'e.mscz
[A few moments later] I just discovered that the original has both flats and "half-flats" (I believe that's the correct term???). I missed them completely. Though it's still interesting even without all the right notes. :-)
In reply to The first thing I note is… by TheHutch
Thank you very much. Yes, it is still interesting.