Cresc._ _ _ _ _ to dim._ _ _ _ _ in inspector don't change the name

• Oct 10, 2017 - 22:11

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From new score : changing Cresc. _ _ _ _ to dim. _ _ _ _ in inspector, doesn't change the line name ; starting from dim. _ _ _ _, the same.
No change after reload.


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The actual type (the dropdown menu that has "crescendo" and "decrescendo") is independent of the text displayed. If you want to change the text, right-click the line and click "Line Properties...". From there, you can modify the text to your heart's content.

In reply to by LuuBluum

If you remove the check from the text line, it becomes the proper crescendo or decrescendo according to the dropdown menu. It would make sense that the text does the same thing. Both Slow Rabbit and I are quite familiar how to do this manually.

In reply to by Jojo-Schmitz

We're not talking about the line changing when you change the text on the hair pin, we're talking about what happens to the text when you insert a "cresc. - - -" line and use the inspector to change to type from crescendo to decrescendo, the text remains the same. If you remove the check from "text line"in the inspector is will be the proper decrescendo or crescendo matching the type.

In reply to by mike320

My question remsais valid. Why and how should a change a text line "cresc. _ _ _ " to a decrescendo line via Inspector change the text and to what? Of course for cresc. it is obvious and should become "dim. _ _ _ ", but what if that text had been modified alrerady? What for a "dim. _ _ _ " that had been changed to "decresc. _ _ _ "?

In reply to by Jojo-Schmitz

I think you're over thinking this Jojo. If the current effect of the hairpin is decrescendo, having cres._ _ _ being displayed is just wrong. The text should not remain the same if the type is changed. I wouldn't be opposed to checking if the text has changed before changing the type and assuming the user knew what he was doing when he changed the text and leaving it as is, even if the text no longer makes sense but leaving the default text when the type changes does not make any sense.

I think that if the default text remains when you change a crescendo type to a decrescendo, the text should always automatically change to dim._ _ _ which is the default for the opposite hairpin. It would be just as well to ignore any edits and always change between dim. and cresc. when the type changes.

In reply to by mike320

I don't think I'm over thinking this, I'm just trying to discuss potential problems.
If we willingly and knowingly decide to potentially overwrite a user modified string (as the easy fix), that is fine. If the decision is to only change this when the orginal string had been left unchanged (assuming the user knew what (s)he was douing, and a slightly more complicated fix), that is fine too, but there should to be an informed decision on this.

In reply to by Jojo-Schmitz

I'm not opposed to discussion. As you can see from my previous response, I'm not sure if it's better to check the text to see if it's been changed and leave it or always change it. Either of these would be fine with me.

The situation that I have personally run into is that the two hairpins are next to each other in the palette and I insert the wrong one while copying a score. When I go back and double check my work I realize that in my haste I have entered the wrong one. At this point I would prefer to simply check the box in the inspector to fix it rather than delete and reenter or edit the existing one. If while entering the score I need to change the text I do it as soon as I enter it, often adding poco a poco or molto, I will realize if I have entered the wrong one. In this case, I can normally undo it and enter the correct one, then modify the text. So what happens when the text has been changed is not real important to me.

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