Option to turn off Note Entry Mode
Please let me have the option to turn off Note Entry Mode.
Much of my work is proof-reading, editing, and just generally cleaning up other people’s work. It’s necessary to type N before any selection or edit to get out of NEM - again and again. All those extra clicks add up and it can be a disaster if I forget with random wierd things happening and a lot of Command-Z to undo the errors.
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Note entry mode is off by default. If you have to press N to turn it off, it can only be because you pressed N and turned it on earlier. Also note that you can glance at the top left corner of the window to see whether you're in note entry mode or not.
In reply to Note entry mode is off by… by Isaac Weiss
If you have (almost) anything on the staff and press a note letter (a-g) you will automatically turn on note input mode and the note will be entered with some semi-random duration.
In reply to If you have (almost)… by mike320
This is also my experience.
1) Note Entry Mode is off
2) I enter something onto the staff
3) Note Entry Mode turns on and I need to turn it off manually.
In reply to This is also my experience… by Musikate
"2) I enter something onto the staff"
What do you enter onto the staff? I don't know of anything but adding notes that will turn on note entry mode.
In reply to "2) I enter something onto… by mike320
You're right. I did think it was kind of random. Now I know why.
Would still like the option of having it off unless I want it on since most of my work is editing not composing.
In reply to You're right. I did think it… by Musikate
If you are in normal "edit" mode (i.e. not in note entry mode) and you select a note in the score, if you press a pitch letter (e.g. "C") then the pitch of the note changes and you are left in note entry mode, even though you weren't in it to begin with.
In reply to Note entry mode is off by… by Isaac Weiss
I wonder if this is a Mac OS issue.
In reply to Note entry mode is off by… by Isaac Weiss
It turns on when entering notes via the computer keyboard. Really frustrating as you have to turn it off after entering notes even if you don't use the mouse to enter notes. Entering notes via keyboard is far more efficient than using the mouse
In reply to It turns on when entering… by lilmetalkid1
You wrote:
It turns on when entering notes via the computer keyboard.
Do you mean that note entry mode turns on when entering notes?
How else would notes be entered... by entering lyrics? Of couse not!
It might just be me, but if I were a newbie and wished to enter notes, the first thing I would consider is to use something called note entry mode.
Then, when I was done entering notes, I would switch it off.
You also wrote:
Entering notes via keyboard is far more efficient than using the mouse.
You are sooo... correct!
Some people take a long time to figure that one out.
In reply to You wrote: It turns on when… by Jm6stringer
We (or at least I, who agrees with the complaint,) want an option to disable note entry mode and use solely the keyboard.
Just a thought that you might want to say "disable note entry mode" to distinguish from the usual turning NEM on or off. It seems like this is something that could/should be in Preferences – unless you need to be able to re-enable NEM while you're cleaning up other people's work.
I'm not sure there is much value to disabling note entry mode, but I can see value to "locking" a score to prevent any kind of editing.
In reply to I'm not sure there is much… by shoogle
Yes, maybe. But OP does want to edit notes (correct pitch etc.). So he/she asks for a special mode where one can edit but not enter notes. I don't think that's technically possible without major changes (and I'm not convinced it's even desireable). Of course OP might get away with removing the keybindings for note entry and restict editing to mouse and cursor key actions ....
In reply to Yes, maybe. But OP does want… by rmattes
Well I could see a padlock button with a dropdown arrow of different kinds of editing, such as note entry, text edit, moving/resizing, change inspector properties. Click the padlock to disable all forms of editing, or click the arrow to only disable certain kinds of editing.
In reply to Yes, maybe. But OP does want… by rmattes
I suspect the number of real-world cases where one has a need to edit pitch of notes but absolutely under no circumstances ever enter a new one is close enough to zero to not be worth any special code just for that.
However, the idea of some sort of (user-definable?) modes to restrict the interface to only certain commands is intriguing to me. I could see it being valuable in developing tutorials. This has been discussion in conjunction with an idea fo Google Summer of Code.
In reply to Yes, maybe. But OP does want… by rmattes
It's desirable because the default behavior of NEM is to keep the same length as the last note entered as you scroll along. Say I'm editing a complicated passage and want to change the notes but not the rhythm. I would find it immensely helpful to just be able to arrow-right then type the new note name in for each note in the melody, rather than editing each note then leaving NEM because it will continue to make every note the same length as the first when I type the letter in.
In reply to It's desirable because the… by r0bb
What you are describing is "repitch mode". See https://musescore.org/en/handbook/3/note-input-modes#repitch
In reply to What you are describing is … by SteveBlower
Actually, repitch mode is even better than what was described, because you don't need the cursor keys. Just type the new pitches directly and they replaced the old ones, keeping the rhythm.
Hi!
I feel the same way. It would be more logical to not enter note input mode if A, B, C, D, E, F, or G is pressed but simply just change pitch of the selected note. The same way you don't enter NIM when you press a different duration to change length of the selected note. For me, it would be most logical to enter note input mode only when N is pressed. Can anyone say why it shouldn't be this way? :)
And there's some unlogical behavior too: Select a measure -> select note duration other than quarter note -> press A, B, C, D, E, F, or G -> you still get a quarter note...
In reply to Hi!… by pekka.kurki
Someone recently requested exactly the opposite... https://twitter.com/musescore/status/976095772071612416
In reply to Someone recently requested… by Isaac Weiss
Well, I see his point when you start to use MuseScore for the first time. He suggests that when you open a new file, it should start with note input mode on. But it really doesn't affect this suggestion...?
In reply to Hi!… by pekka.kurki
I have to say that I agree with pekka.kurki. Try to re-pitch a note this way, and not only are you left in note entry mode, but the whole chord (along with its articulations and lyrics, etc.) is deleted, and a single note is left in its place. It would be better if the note were simply re-pitched within the chord, and note entry mode kept turned off. If I want to replace the whole chord, I can turn on note entry mode myself.
In reply to I have to say that I agree… by mattmcclinch
To repitch a single note in a chord, click it and use arrows to adjust it. You can also delete it and use ctrl+ a letter to add the correct pitch. It is very unlikely that anyone would want to change only the third note of every chord or even only one note in every chord, so having repitch change a singe note makes no sense. You can still add chords in repitch the same way as in normal note entry mode.
In reply to To repitch a single note in… by mike320
Thanks for your reply, mike320. It is true that MuseScore offers multiple ways to edit notes within a chord. And I was not suggesting a change to Re-Pitch mode, but rather a change to the meaning of certain commands in ViewState::NORMAL.
Until I read pekka.kurki's comment, I couldn't figure out what the problem was, or what the OP was trying to do. Now I think I understand, and I can see how the current behavior might not be for the best.
In reply to Thanks for your reply,… by mattmcclinch
Yes, this has nothing to do with re-pitch mode. Perhaps we need to make a new discussion with better headline to get more brainstorming about this? It's not like you want to turn off note entry mode, but to change behavior of pressing A, B, C, D, E, F or G in a normal viewstate as you referred.
In reply to I have to say that I agree… by mattmcclinch
FWIW, I would be perfectly happy to see pressing a letter key while in normal mode not put you into note input mode automatically but instead to act more like a repitch. This would be consistent with how other commands work in normal mode and to me more efficient. But I am pretty sure this was a deliberate design choice made to address concerns such as the one referenced above with the person who was having trouble figuring out how to enter notes. So the proposed change is a step forward to me and some others, but perhaps a step backwards for beginners just trying to figure out how to enter notes.
In reply to FWIW, I would be perfectly… by Marc Sabatella
Perhaps more logical behavior in user interface is more important than pleasing beginners? There is a Getting Started file and a handbook for beginners. Just a thought, why not make Getting Started file to open automatically the first time Musescore is opened after installation?
Btw.: the same happens, if you add an interval.
I agree with having a lock score mode. So many times when I am rehearsing from a score, often selecting specific bars to play back so I can play or sing along with them and accidentally hitting something that puts me (unnoticed) into note entry mode. For rehearsing, the only thing I mess with is the tempo.