I need to create a "Shake" articulation
I have searched without success so if I missed it I apologize. I need to create a "shake" articulation for a jazz transcription I am doing of Dexter Gordon's solo in Watermelon Man. The symbol is exactly like the trill symbol that exists within MuseScore currently but without the "Tr" at the beginning of the wavy line. Is this possible or does it need to be added to the feature request forum?
Thank you,
Brett
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There is no wavy line style in MuseScore currently. The only way I can think of is to put several prall symbols one after the other.
In reply to There is no wavy line style by [DELETED] 5
Is there still no "shake" symbol, or has that changed?
In reply to Is there still no "shake"… by xavierjazz
There is a "trill" line with no tr at the beginning in the advanced lines palette. Is that what you're looking for?
In reply to There is a "trill" line with… by mike320
That's what I use, thanks. I just wondered if there was a separate group of symbols for brass particularities.
In reply to That's what I use, thanks. I… by xavierjazz
Well, there are the falls, doits, etc on the Articulations and Glissandos palette. But I'm not aware of any other notation for shake that is provided or that would be needed - the wavy line on the Lines palette is what is intended to be used.
In reply to Well, there are the falls,… by Marc Sabatella
I am interested how playback of a shake would work, as in real life a brass shake is not technically a diatonic trill, but an alteration of pitches of the harmonic series for the given fingering on an instrument.
In reply to Well, there are the falls,… by Marc Sabatella
I couldn't find them until I realized they are in the Arpeggios and Glissandos palette, not articulations. :)
It seems to m,e that the shake should be with them, as it is also a Brass instrument-specific notation.
Thanks for all your help.
In reply to I couldn't find them until I… by xavierjazz
Currently, the palettes are organized based mostly on the internal representation - a line is something that has any start and end point (different notes) and can be edited, arpeggios & glissandos are symbols applied to a single chord or two adjacent notes and can also be edited, articulation is a single symbol attached to a single note and cannot be edited, etc. However, it is true that this is often not a very natural way to think about it as a user. I don't care that a volta is a line, I expect to see it with other repeat markings, and I expect to see trills with other ornaments, etc. I would definitely encourage a broad rethinking of this organization for 3.0, although perhaps as a new default workspace, leaving the current one for people who would prefer not to re-learn locations of things.
In reply to Currently, the palettes are… by Marc Sabatella
I feel very much the same way Marc. As all know, a part of the design should be to make it as easy as possible to accomplish what the user wants.
I like the way that repeat barlines are now added to the "Repeats & Jumps" menu, although I am now trained to look under barlines. I think ALL symbols that can be described in more than one particular way should be duplicated in those pallets. Perhaps voltas should be in the "Repeats & Jumps" too, but I am wary about making pallets too dense.
Regards,
In reply to I feel very much the same… by xavierjazz
Yes, exactly! Duplication is nice but does result in everything being bigger. So ideally things wouldn't live in mutiple places. But, another advantage of having all lines in one palette together is that it makes documentation / support a bit easier. We can describe how lines function in terms of editing (double click, use shift+left/right) in one place and say "this applies to everything on the Lines palette" and be done with it. Not saying this can't be addressed if things are more scattered, but it is something else to think about as one contemplates how a new design could work.
In reply to Yes, exactly! Duplication… by Marc Sabatella
Yep.
I guess the question is, how easy to find those functions so as to make search easier for people who aren't already knowledgeable.
In reply to Well, there are the falls,… by Marc Sabatella
The wavy lines see their length changing when the layout change. A shake is often represented with the shortest possible wavy line. Is there a way to prevent the wavy line to grow longer when spacing increases?
In reply to The wavy lines see their… by Pierre-Yves Saumont
Don't add it as a line, but as a raw symbol from the master palette instead.
In reply to Don't add it as a line, but… by jeetee
Thanks!