re-extracting or deleting an extracted part from a score

• Apr 5, 2019 - 16:58

Is there are way to delete and re-extract selected parts from a score. I ask because of the mess made of parts when importing a ms2.1 score with parts into ms3? I have notes in wrong octaves in the parts, stave text become system text and duplicated across all parts, crazy placement of dynamics and this was after going with the default to reset various things on import. I also find that if I correct a note pitch in a part it doesn't now make the corresponding correction in the score - very odd. I'm wondering whether all these issues are caused by importing the parts. Hence my original question.


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In the menu item File->Parts, you can select the part you want to redo by selecting it and clicking the delete button. You can then click new, type the proper name of the part where it defaults to Part_x_ (where x is an number that may be displayed), click the proper instrument(s) on the left and select the proper voices if needed on the right and click OK.

My guess is that you didn't create the score properly in version 2.1 and you now see the error of your ways when you import it into version 3. Attach your version 2 score and we can look at it.

In reply to by mike320

Would you like elaborate on "didn't create the score properly"? I discover in addition to the weird things that have happen on import, my original C Clarinet parts have become Bb Clarinet parts without altering the not positions or initial key signature. However where the key signature does change the transposed key signature appears in the B extracted part. So in effect these parts are half Bb and half C clarinet. I don't think that had anything to do with not creating the score correctly.

In reply to by richardm999

Without seeing your score, I can only guess based upon what you have told me. You apparently tried to do manually what MuseScore does automatically, like transpose instruments. When you select the instrument Clarinet, it defaults to B-flat clarinet. Since you didn't like what it did when you saw it in transposed pitch, you pressed ctrl+dragged key signatures until you liked what you saw. You then entered the notes like they are on a C clarinet. When you created parts, they defaulted to transposed pitch and you got crazy results as far as the notes are concerned. This is but one error I've seen. As for everything else, I would guess you dragged items all over the score to place them where the looked right without regard to where MuseScore says they are. When you imported to version 3, all of these mistakes because very apparent.

Like I said, this is a guess based upon the symptoms you are explaining, I'd need to see the version 2 score to know for sure.

In reply to by mike320

Well you guessed wrong. I am very familiar with transposing instruments. I defined the clarinets as C Clarinets from the start. I wouldn't have done otherwise as I was copying a Beethoven ms which was written for C clarinets. I suspect this is a bug. Having re-extracted the clarinet part things are better but not perfect. The part has clefs and key signatures inserted in the same bars that correspond to the beginning of each system in the score in addition to the usual clef and key signature at the beginning of each system in the part. That issue has happened to other transposing instruments (piccolo in F, Trumpet in F). Fortunately the superfluous stuff was easy to delete.

In reply to by richardm999

Like I said, without the score it's impossible to do anything but guess based upon experience. You wouldn't believe some of the things I've seen people do and you are nothing more than an unknown name to me. I have no way to know if you know what you are doing, so don't be offended.

You may have found some of the bugs that are known to exist in version 3.0.5 and earlier. Many of these bugs have already been fixed in the future version 3.1. If you want to wait until that is released to see if they're fixed, I'm fine with that. If you want help fixing your score now, then attach it.

Under normal circumstances, there should be no problems with the octaves of notes in parts when importing form 2.1. Similarly, staff text would not normally turn into system text, and default dynamics position should be as per usual engraving standards, So there must be something very unusual going on with your particular score. We would need you to attach it in order to understand and assist.

The fact that you mention a note that doesn't link to the part also suggests something is very wrong. First thing I can think of is a bug in a much older version (like, maybe before 2.1?) where the "J" command for changing enharmonic spelling could mess up octaves & links. But you'd have seen the results of that before importing into 3.0. Also, there is a known problem in all versions where if you change transposition settings of a staff after generating parts, you get similar effects. Again, though, you'd have seen this right away in 2.x.

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