Not sure how to slow down playback at Fine
I have entered a piece of classical music I want to play. There is a DS al Fine at the end, the music is in 6/8 time and the Fine bar (somewhere in the middle and containing 5 of of 6 beats) has a fermata at the end for a slow down. The first time through, the bar after Fine containing one 1/8 beat is played. The second time through the playback should slow and stop at the end of the Fine bar.
I made the jump work by making the Fine bar contain only 5 beats and adding a bar afterwards containing 1 beat. In that respect it looks the same as the original and plays the correct sequence.
What I haven't managed to do is add a fermata that is only played when the music comes to the Fine for the last time.
I tried duplicating the Fine bar and adding 1. and 2. voltas but I couldn't get that to work.
I could just copy the first part to the end and take out the DS... but I would like to see if there's a way to make the fermata slow down the last time.
Is that possible in MuseScore?
Thanks.
Comments
What you want to do is not possible in MuseScore. Ornaments and tempos stay the same every time they are encountered.
As for the fermata over the barline, this is used in lieu of a caesura to indicate that there is a pause between movements. In classical music this has been used as long as I'm aware of. (I haven't seen much early baroque music so I don't know exactly when it started). This is not commonly practiced today. The pause between movements is now assumed. If there is no pause between movements, then there is an ATTACCA written on the score to indicate the movements are attached, even when there is a tie or slur connecting the movements.
In reply to What you want to do is not… by mike320
OK Thanks. I'll just have to hack a version to play along with.
In reply to OK Thanks. I'll just have to… by TheOnlyMagicbean
Yes, this is an awful problem, esp at the end of A and B in AABB movements. I have either put 'moderate' ritards at such points, teach myself to love the less-moderate ritard, or in DSaF pieces, used a MuseScore "coda". I do wish MS had a mechanism for this ("this tempo change only on pass n").
In reply to OK Thanks. I'll just have to… by TheOnlyMagicbean
There is a new tool in 3.1 (released a couple hours ago) that might help you here, it's under the Tools menu and called Unroll Repeats. Select this, and a new score is created in a new tab with all of the repeats and jumps unrolled so you can see exactly what MuseScore will play. You can adjust the playback (tempo, fermata etc.) on the appropriate iteration and save this score under a new name so you don't overwrite your properly notated score.
In reply to There is a new tool in 3.1 … by mike320
HOLY CANNOLI, BATMAN!!!! That's astounding if it's so. Let me check it out (i've d/l'ed it)....
In reply to HOLY CANOLI, BATMAN!!!! … by [DELETED] 1831606
Oh, Batman, no thanks! It doesn't have "now re-roll them back." Useless. Arggh.
In reply to Oh, Batman, no thanks! It… by [DELETED] 1831606
What exactly is the envisioned use-case for this strange feature, to make a performance that you could never couple to the real score because the timing is deliberately different?
In reply to What exactly is the… by [DELETED] 1831606
For the initial reason see this discussion: https://musescore.org/en/node/183966
In reply to For the initial reason see… by kuwitt
Thanks. But without "re-roll", this is like a partially-implemented ladder that lets you get down into the manhole to fix the broken transformer, but doesn't offer a way out, or a one-way moon rocket. "No cigar...".
In reply to Thanks. But without "re-roll… by [DELETED] 1831606
So maybe could get improved (worth for a feature request ;-).
In reply to So maybe could get improved … by kuwitt
I'll do that once I've figured out how to ask for it, or what to ask for; it's not obvious what the UI should be to "per-pass execution controls". Maybe just a right-click property on them would be enough.-- will think about it and do, thanks for your support.
In reply to Oh, Batman, no thanks! It… by [DELETED] 1831606
No re-roll. It's only useful for people who want to have proper playback at the cost of proper notation. It's really useful if your goal is to create an MP3 (or even MIDI) with variations in repeats as requested by the OP.
In reply to No re-roll. It's only useful… by mike320
I do wish MS had a mechanism for pass-tagging tempo changes (I know, "what else...?")...at least.
In reply to I do wish MS had a mechanism… by [DELETED] 1831606
Someone needs to come up with an innovative way to allow anything to affect playback only on the x time through. This includes, but is no wise limited to
Tempos
Notes (e.g. Sax plays second time only)
Ottavas
Dynamics
I've seen marcato second time through (or something similar) so I guess articulations do need to be included.
In reply to There is a new tool in 3.1 … by mike320
Well, that looks like it will be useful for practising along with. I'll give it a go. Thanks!