Velocity
The velocity function (found in the inspector) does not appear to be working. All voices and instruments sound, in playback, as if to have the same velocity value, and changing the value does not effect playback sound in any way.
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Can you attach a sample score?
In reply to Can you attach a sample… by mike320
Here is an excerpt of the piece that I am encountering the error on; let me know if you need something larger. Thanks!
In reply to Here is an excerpt of the… by BenjaminTufte
I'll tell you what I suspect but you didn't tell me. The score is an import from midi. I clearly hear the notes with different velocities changing volumes as expected. The change is not significant but I can hear them even when the entire ensemble plays. Instruments like Violin 1 & Violin 3 don't have different velocities, so their volume is steady.
I have no good explanation why you would not hear it.
In reply to Here is an excerpt of the… by BenjaminTufte
See https://musescore.org/en/node/277424
In reply to See https://musescore.org/en… by Jojo-Schmitz
He doesn't have dynamics in the score, he's relying on the velocity changes on notes to change the velocities, at least that's my understanding.
This is apparently a side effect of the change for the new single-note dynamics feature - velocity is no longer how volume is controlled, for instruments that support single note dynamics.
In reply to This is apparently a side… by Marc Sabatella
@Marc, are you saying you don't hear the dynamic changes either? If so I suspect it's related to my using CC11 for dynamics and your using CC2. This is just a guess.
In reply to @Marc, are you saying you… by mike320
I'm saying I have experienced the fact that the "velocity" overrides for individual notes no longer work for SND instruments, and James has confirmed this is true and would not be easy to fix. So for now, it's a known limitation we will simply have to document - the velocity overrides for individual notes don't work with SND, unfortunately.
In reply to I'm saying I have… by Marc Sabatella
For starters, you didn't answer my first question. Do you hear the differences in velocity on your system? I hear the individual overrides perfectly on my system using 3.1. I use CC11 so I'm not limited to instruments and fonts with espr. sounds. I get perfect SND results (when the mixer works) on my scores using this method, including the attached score.
In reply to For starters, you didn't… by mike320
I hadn't actually listened to this specific score, because what I state I know to be true in general from my own experience. But yes, in indeed, this score is no different from others - the velocity settings have no effect. To exaggerate the effect and be absolutely sure, I selected all notes in the first two measure, set them to velocity User/10, then selected everything in the next three measures and set the velocity to User/120. On playback, no difference whatsoever.
So if you do this same experiment, it works for you? And then if you also add crescendos that rely on SND, you hear those as well? If so, that's good information that suggests somehow using CC11 works around this limitation.
In reply to I hadn't actually listened… by Marc Sabatella
I didn't have to do anything extreme to hear the difference. I soloed some of the violins and heard the velocity changes. When that worked I played the entire score and still heard the velocity changes. I suspect you have CC11 and set espr. channels selected in the default sound font.
I decided to change my mixer settings to further test and I didn't notice velocity changes when I used CC2 on espr. channels (I needed to do something else for a few minutes anyway). I plan to keep my CC2 setting and try to remember this conversation so if we run into similar questions in the future we'll have a good answer.
Often, I would import an old score from midi and get rid of all the midi velocities with the inspector and "select-all". Is this no longer possible? Is the velocity field of the inspector essentially unusable now?
In reply to Often, I would import an old… by [DELETED] 1831606
The velocity works fine if you're using the CC2 for dynamic changes, but not for CC11 (settings in the dynamics tab of the synthsizer). If you have velocities and dynamic changes, the dynamics may not be played properly if the velocity is set in individual notes if you use CC2, but I suspect they will be played properly with CC11. I reset my computer and don't want to wait for another change back to CC11 to test this, so if you use CC11, please test it and let me know here.
In reply to The velocity works fine if… by mike320
I don't have control over which CC command is used by MuseScore. Which of the MuseScore facilities for controlling note or part velocity still work, and which don't?
In reply to I don't have control over… by [DELETED] 1831606
You have the choice, in View > Symthesizer > Dynamic, between CC1, 2, 4 and 11
In reply to The velocity works fine if… by mike320
Are you sure you don't have this backwards? The default in MuseScore is CC2, not CC11, and it's the defaut using CC2 using the defaut soundfont (I just did a revert to factory settings and have not touched any of this) that does not work.
In reply to Are you sure you don't have… by Marc Sabatella
Yes, I use CC11, I had CC2 opened temporarily and confused myself.