Speedy entry tool please! Or something like this
I really want to master this program, but due to the lack of this tool, I cannot switch from Finale or Sibelius. There you can move the ghost note using the arrows on the keyboard, and then enter the desired duration.
It is important that the next shadow note is the same as the previous one. Here I always enter B by default
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Have you read the Handbook to learn about the different note input modes offered? Note input is extremely fast in MuseScore and is very similar to Finale and Sibelius - you are certainly not limited to entering B! In the default mode, simply type the letter name you want, or click on the staff in the desired position, or click the key on the built-in pian keyboard (in View menu). if you find yourself always entering a "B", then it sounds like you may have accidentally enabled the "rhythm" input mode. To switch back to the default, click the arrow next to the note input icon ("N") on the toolbar and re-select the top option "Step-time").
In reply to Have you read the Handbook… by Marc Sabatella
I understand what you are saying, but that’s not quite what I need. I do not enter a letter on the keyboard that matches the note, but I move the note using the up or down arrows to indicate the desired pitch. For me, this is the best alternative way to enter notes without using a midi keyboard
In reply to I understand what you are… by Yaunick
Can you explain what you like about that method? It's more keystrokes than simply typing the letter name. Also, I don't recall Finale having a mode like that, although maybe it's something new?
BTW, if you literally just want to repeat the previous note, pressing "R" does that.
In reply to Can you explain what you… by Marc Sabatella
the R key copies the previous note or chord - this is different. It is not suitable and not convenient. I sent a message with a link to the video, but administrators check it.
In reply to the R key copies the… by Yaunick
I did get an email with a video. I understand the mode you are describing, I just don't understand why you would prefer having to press more keys than fewer keys. After all, after entering a C, if you want to enter an E next, the method you describe require three keypresses. MuseScore requires only one. But f you really want to press three keys (perhaps you'd rather not think about letter names), simply press "R" then the Up arrow key twice (well, actually Alt+Shift+Up, but you can define this and other shortcuts in Edit / Preferences / Shortcuts).
In reply to Can you explain what you… by Marc Sabatella
The R key is partially suitable when the same note durations are repeated, but as soon as you need to specify a different duration, you need to additionally correct it after entering. This is especially inconvenient when, for example, the eighth beat remains at the end of the measure, and the R key copies the quarter note, and the program creates a league that I don't need after the measure
In reply to the R key is partially… by Yaunick
No, you can select the desired duration before pressing "R".
In reply to No, you can select the… by Marc Sabatella
This is inconvenient, at least for me. First I have to indicate the duration, then press the R key, and then use the arrows to indicate the height. For example, in Finale or Sibelius, the 4 key not only indicates the duration of the quarter note, but also immediately enters it, like the 3/5/6/7 keys and others. They immediately do two actions - the choice of duration and input it.
In reply to This is inconvenient, at… by Yaunick
OK, I see, so occasionally it does save one keystroke. It's still more keystrokes in the case where the pitch is not repeated, though. Anyhow, I do understand the mode you request, and someday perhaps someone will implement it. Meanwhile, though, I recommend you simply spend some time with the existing system, which is, as I said, actually more efficient (fewer keystrokes). I think you'll get used to it quickly enough.
In reply to OK, I see, so occasionally… by Marc Sabatella
I am very glad that I conveyed the thought :) Thank you
I managed to get used to using the MIDI keyboard for input. This is the fastest way if I am at home. In this case I can think quickly, but if I use letters on the keyboard that are in different places and have a limited tessitura, then I can’t get used to it :)
In reply to I am very glad that I… by Yaunick
You might be surprised how quickly you do get used to it. I can type CDEFGAB or any combination pretty quickly as I get so much practice. But, you can also redefine these keys if you like, so ASDFGHJ does the same job. You might also find the piano keyboard window to be effective. Actually, I could imagine that window being made keyboard-controllable and having that be the what is used to determine the pitch in "rhythm" mode, which would produce almost the exact same sequence of operations (arrows to move "cursor", number to enter note). That would probably be a small change to the code, and it would have the benefit of making this window more accessible to the visually impaired or those unable to use a mouse for other reasons.
In reply to You might be surprised how… by Marc Sabatella
Hi Marc. I am looking for the same thing, and by following your suggestion I found that "rhythm" mode is almost perfect. However, there is a difference that can make you take twice as long for the input. I'll try to explain it: In Finale when you use the up/down keys you navigate diatonically, that means that the cursor goes line-space-line-space, etc. In Musescore the navigation is chromatic. As a result, if you want to go from F to G you need a double-keystroke in Musescore while in Finale you make the same with a single keystroke.
So, if there is a way to set the behavior of the arrows in Musescore to a diatonic way, that would be fantastic.
For me is easier the arrows method because my hand is stuck in the same part of the keyboard, and my fingers are moving between two keys rather than 7 (A_B_C_D_E_F_G)
Thanks!!
In reply to Hi Marc. I am looking for… by Ricardo Ospina Duque
In MuseScore alt+shift+arrow changes notes diatonically.
In reply to In MuseScore alt+shift+arrow… by mike320
And you can customize this in Edit / Preferences / Shortcuts.
In reply to And you can customize this… by Marc Sabatella
I missed that. I looked for chromatic, but the short cut doesn't include that word. It starts "Pitch up or move text..."
In reply to I am very glad that I… by Yaunick
"letters on the keyboard that are in different places and have a limited tessitura"
I encourage you to try again.
Actually the letters ARE very conveniently placed on the keyboard (at least on AZERTY keyboard).
c-d-e-f-g-b form a nice kind of semi-circle, just the 'a' must be done with the little finger (or the other hand)
And for the tessitura, CTRL+up/down arrows change it by octave, so you can get any note by a minimum of keystrokes.
While I understand the input mode you have described, I wouldn't try to emulate it in MuseScore by R + arrows, because that would flow your ear with lot of intermediary sounds.
In reply to OK, I see, so occasionally… by Marc Sabatella
There is still a pretty good way to enter notes using the virtual midi keyboard, which I see below. But using one mouse is very tiring.
In reply to OK, I see, so occasionally… by Marc Sabatella
If this method will be implemented, then you need to add a new action that will allow you to put a random sign not only on one note, but also entire measure. It is implemented in the Finale, but not implemented in Sibelius.
In reply to No, you can select the… by Marc Sabatella
In Finale, this method is available immediately after installing the program, in Sibelius you need to configure it, initially the method is similar to musescore
In reply to the R key is partially… by Yaunick
You can specify a new duration before pressing R.
I can write a simple page in 1 minute using the computer keyboard with "step-input".
In addition, a simple page formatting with the mouse, requires another 30 seconds.
Demo:
In particular, I chose this piece to slow me down (including many triptlets). Normally it is possible to entering notes at very fast than this.
Hopefully, this GIF will inspire you to step-input with a computer keyboard.
In reply to I can write a simple page in… by Ziya Mete Demircan
I repeat, I can’t get used to it, I quickly get tired of finding letters on the keyboard. The arrangement of numbers and letters is also inconvenient, if you use an incomplete keyboard - my hands are confused. Visually seeing the height is much easier, even if it requires more keystrokes on the keyboard. Perhaps my preference is due to the fact that I played a lot in orchestras and read a lot from the sheet
The midi keyboard is also convenient for me. It is like a piano keyboard, and I play it often enough. But taking it with you is a bad idea.
As for this example, I will present it quickly in the Finale, since there are no large jumps in height. I automated groupings using the "Key Manager" program for specific triplets (quarter + eighth in triplet, etc.). But that's another story
In reply to I repeat, I can’t get used… by Yaunick
I hope you will find a convenient and fast way to use for note-entry.
In reply to I hope you will find a… by Ziya Mete Demircan
I absolutely support that finale input method is much much easier. Everyone that really worked with it and then with Musescore can approve that. And that theoretic idea saying that "less keystrokes = easier input" is absolutely not how it works in real life. Very sad that developers of this program don't understand that...
In reply to I absolutely support that… by s.dyga
I'm one one of those speedy entry fans. It's a lovely workflow, especially when using a midi keyboard. I think has been discussed many times, most recently in this thread:
https://musescore.org/en/node/312544
and then some more discussion in this entry to the issue tracker. :-)
https://musescore.org/en/node/312792
In reply to I absolutely support that… by s.dyga
Actually, no one is objecting to someday adding this. But FWIW, I too used Finale speedy entry for years, but even before switching to MuseScore, I switched to Simple entry in Finale and found it much more efficient. And I find MuseScore's entry easier still. It's all subjective. But that's why it is good to support options, and why I support the effort to someday add capabilities more like Finale's "Speedy" entry for the benefit of those who are accustomed to it or who subjectively find it more efficient for them personally.