Change of instrument does not work as expected
Reported version
3.4
Type
Functional
Frequency
Once
Severity
S5 - Suggestion
Reproducibility
Always
Status
closed
Regression
No
Workaround
No
Project
This is a small composition for the organ. I need an oboe sound as solo on staff 2 at the point of measure 3.
I used "alterar instrumento" or intrument change for this, but it doesn't work
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Comments
You need to right-click the text, choose "Change Instrument..." and select oboe. The text is only for visual reference.
Although if you do that, all three staves have oboe sounds. So I guess instrument change cannot work for a single staff?
But then I don't see why instead of creating a new part of oboe, you want to switch the second organ staff to oboe. That sounds awkward.
So anyway this thread doesn't contain a real issue.
In reply to You need to right-click the… by Howard-C
indeed, this is the problem. It should work just for the single staff and from the desired selected point.
That can't work, Instrument is Instrument, of it has 3 staves, all 3 change.
In reply to But then I don't see why… by Howard-C
As I see, you don't understand about composing for the organ. I really need to have the possibility of changing a sound on a same staff because it is usual in compositions for the organ. It means a change of "organ stop" For instance, the software Finale offers us this facility.
As I see, you don't understand what an Instrument change is ;-)
You don't really want an instrument change here, but a channel/sound switch (like arco/pizzicato/tremolo for Violin), entirely different thing. Might need tweaking the instrument definition for Organ to add those channels
In reply to As I see, you don't… by gallrjbr
Sorry, I thought you were talking about switching to the oboe instrument. But yes, the instrument change text isn't actually used for such occasions.
Thank you guys, I think this opens a new aspect for developers to solve. Musescore doesn't give me the possibiiity to switch channel/sound when I am using the organ as instrument. This is a new singularity for development.
How many and which channels would be needed? Do we have the sounds for them?
In reply to How many and which channels… by Jojo-Schmitz
Maybe a lot...
In reply to How many and which channels… by Jojo-Schmitz
At least 3 channels: using the general MIDI table, a trumpet, an oboe and a trombone (one octave deeper). It would be a good beginning. The software Encore 5, for example, allows us to setup different channels and instruments for each voice in one staff. It works well with Encore.
There are also some projects for organ soundfonts as Msjeux14 that open many possibilities for organ compositions. Unfortunately they are not yet ready.
(I'm an organist who has been doing this for a while). Don't use the MuseScore organ. Use three separate staves, with clefs as you want. Set patches as you wish, including organ-organ-organ. That way, you can change instrument on any staff and use three channels (essential if you want to route to a virtual pipe organ, or real one, with full generality). Brace the staves and label them any way you want. Visit all of the posts in https://musescore.com/groups/3642106 , starting with the oldest.
Hi, my friend, thank you very much for the hints, I will try it right now!! Thank you also for telling me about the organ related groups, I didn't know about that.
In reply to Hi, my friend, thank you… by gallrjbr
Thank you again for your help. It worked good