Rests
i'm very new to drum sheet music and even newer to writing it, so im not sure if im just uneducated about this. i understand that there needs to be a certain amount of beats in a bar, but is there a way to just have a space instead of a rest? it puts me off a lot when im playing and they don't really need to be there if theres just a space (thats what a lot of my sheet music is like) . I can delete the rests on the bottom line but not the top and middle line, and i dont understand that.
i attached the sheet music ive been working on and marked the rests i dont want, is there a way to get rid of them? again im sorry if this is a stupid question
thanks
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This is not a stupid question.
I don't work with drum scores usually and there are some tricks to them , so I'm not sure how accurate I will be.
Usually you can just select what you don't want to see and use the "v" to make them visible/unvisible.
Select a rest and press V, it will become invisible. If you want multiple rests you and ctrl-click each rest. If you want all rests within a certain area, select the measures and right click a rest click select and all similar elements in selection range. V will toggle if they are visible.
In a drum line, there is severals voices and so, severals voices for the rests . If you want to delete a rest of voice 1 it's not possible, but you can make it invisible with "v" or in the INSPECTOR the case on the top-left. It becomes grey on the screen but invisible on a paper-sheet-music. For the others voices, you can delete the rest, simply with "delete"..
I don't understand why , your TUPLET of "2", why simply not, 2 eight-notes??
I will also add you can just use V to render elements invisible.
...but
I find your example may need some work.
The three quarter rests could be combined to a dotted half rest if desired.
I understand if you find rests distracting, but having no rests at all makes the music more confusing IMO.
I am not positive how to even play bar 1; I assume there should be a rest after that last eighth, or it should just be a quarter. Ditto for the first note in bar 13.
I also do not understand your multiple 2-tuples; I assume they could just be regular eighth notes.
In reply to I will also add you can just by mkjnovak
honestly i don't understand either. thanks for the advice though and for how to make to rests invisible, i'll look at it as soon as i can
In reply to honestly i don't understand by Sophie McDonald
The tuplet is on a dotted 1/4 note, that's why it looks like a rest is missing. Notice the last 1/8th note does't line up with the 1/4 note.
In reply to The tuplet is on a dotted 1/4 by mike320
In this case the last of the three quarter rests is on beat 3 and a half rather than on beat 3. Musescore does not usually make this sort of error.
In reply to In this case the last of the by azumbrunn
That is not correct. You have 2 voices in this score if notated in MuseScore. The top line has all notes and rests visible.
There are 2 possibilities for the bottom line:
1. the first 1/4 rest invisible (or deleted), the next 1/4 note is on beat 2, the duplet takes up beat 3 to the upbeat of 4 and the final 1/8th note is on the up beat of 4. - the last 1/4 note would have to be moved to the left (-1sp) to make it look like that.
2. The 1/4 rest on beat 1 is invisible or deleted, the next 1/4 note is on beat 2, the duplet is actually a 1/4 note duration and unnecessary work, the last 1/4 is on beat 4 and the last 1/4 rest is deleted (not invisible).
That is why others have said that removing rests is confusing in these situations. If the rests were all visible (or not deleted), the explanation would be more intuitive. The OP could upload the score and everyone could see which is the case.
In reply to That is not correct. You have by mike320
What I am saying is that in your option 1 the last rest in the top voice should not be straight above the eighth note but a bit to the left (two thirds of the distance to the duplet to be precise). It begins an eighth earlier than the eighth note.
Hence your option 1 can be ruled out. Only your option 2 is compatible with the appearance of the score.
In reply to honestly i don't understand by Sophie McDonald
I'm curious if you entered the drum score of if you imported it (probably via musicXML) to MS. I know there is a free notation software that thinks all 1/8th notes are parts of tuplets, but I haven't seen anything I know is imported from that.
In reply to honestly i don't understand by Sophie McDonald
does this make more sense? (i deleted the first bar because i honestly couldnt remember why i needed it)
In reply to [inline:ice_screenshot_201701 by Sophie McDonald
Yes, that is much more clear.
In reply to [inline:ice_screenshot_201701 by Sophie McDonald
The eighth notes are better than the tuplets, yes. But the missing voice 2 rests are not good in my opinion. The missing rests just confuse the placement of the bass drum notes. There is a reason rests are normally used; you shouldn't override that unless you have some very specific purpose in mind and are absolutely positive that this will be the right thing to do.
In reply to The eighth notes are better by Marc Sabatella
In this particular case (corrected version) I think the rhythm is perfectly anchored (optically I mean) by the ongoing quarter notes in the top voice. So the rests in the second voice are redundant. Whatever the rules say, it will be hard to make a mistake reading this as it now stands. This is true for every case where one voice does not have any rests at all: The other voices align and will be hard to misread.
In truly polyphonic music the rests will have to be there, but in essentially homophonic contexts they are quite often not truly necessary and often cause clutter.
In reply to In this particular case by azumbrunn
Still, most drum music *does* show the rests, so the above looks unfamiliar (check the published literature for countless examples - rests are almost shown in situations like this) and that in itself leads to reading errors. Plus, if the drummer is looking at the bass drum part specifically because he is perhaps improvising the other parts, or already learned it, he will have trouble. So even though one could technically still make sense out of a part like this, it's bad practice.
In reply to Still, most drum music *does* by Marc Sabatella
I have to agree there; if everyone does it a certain way it is best to do it the same way since everybody has been used to it.
In other music though (for double stopped strings as well as piano) it is easy to find examples with those redundant rests removed, i.e. never engraved in older music. So there I dispute the idea that those rests are common practice.
In reply to I have to agree there; if by azumbrunn
It definitely depends on context. But in this one - drum set music using the convention of upstem for hands, downstem for feet - the rest are almost always included. In fact I couldn't find *any* exceptions in the dozen or so scores I checked, although no doubt some must exist. And again, *in this context*, the rests serve a very important function as I described. The two voices are a constant and each serves a specific purpose, so people really do tend to read a single voice at a time, at least some times.
Piano music tends to use voices differently - they come and go as needed but don't nexessarily "mean" anything in particular. So people have no incentive to read the voices separately. But in fugues and other pieces in strict counterpoint where you *do* need to co sider the voices independently, you'll see even piano music tends to include the rests for clarity.
In reply to It definitely depends on by Marc Sabatella
To me there is no question but that the rests in various voices should conform to convention.
Musicians sightreading need less clutter, BUT need complete information.
Anything that makes reading harder should be avoided.
Personnaly I do like image, with rests, here in a miniature size
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