How to edit breath marks, articulations, etc
For our Senior Citizen band I often need to edit parts for clarity. I'd like to make breath marks higher and larger (so they're not mistaken for spots on the paper!) but how do I do this?
Are breath marks included in "Style/Edit Text Style..." is so, which category? For that matter, what _is_ included in "Technik", System" and "Staff" under "Style/Edit Text Style..."?
Thanks.
Kate
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I do not think you can edit, on 1.3. Try a trick...
moving higher works, double-click and arrow keys.
Breath marks are larger when using Bravura instead of Emmentaler, but that is only possible with the latest nightly build. 1.x has only Emmentaler.
In reply to moving higher works, by Jojo-Schmitz
Trick number two, if you settle:
Ctrl + T or Ctrl + L;
Select the "MusicalSymbols" font.
Then you can increase the size and drag.
I like the Control-T/comma. Quick and easy!
Thanks for the ControlT/musical symbols font idea, too.
I'll try the nightly build and Bravura - sounds like fun!
As far as selecting (double-click) and arrows - can't select like I can a slur, for instance, so - no go. Might be a Mac OS thing.
Thanks!
Kate
In reply to Thanks for the great ideas! by Musikate
What do you mean when you say you "can't select"? What specifically goes wrong? No handle appears with some markings, but upon double click, you should see the word "Edit Mode" in the status bar lower right, and then the arrows work. You can also use the mouse to drag. This definitely works on Mac.
In reply to What do you mean when you say by Marc Sabatella
I can select! The absence of handles after a double-click threw me off. And I never noticed the "Edit Mode" in the lower right. That also explains why I thought the ability to move markings was flaky and worked sometimes and sometimes didn't work. I knew I could mouse-drag. How can I select all of them in the piece at one time?
Or back to one of my original questions - where is the control in "Style/Edit Text Style..." for the Articulations and Ornaments? They are consistently too low and small for me. When I'm doing a piece for the full band with 12 different instruments and 121 measures in a swing style there are a lot of Articulations and Ornaments to move up.
That status bar would be pretty helpful if it were up on top with the other stuff.
Thanks for your help!
Excellent!
Kate
In reply to You are, of course, completely correct by Musikate
I believe these are not considered text, hence no text style
Have you tried Style->General Style...->Articulations, Ornaments->Articulation size?
In reply to I believe these are not by Jojo-Schmitz
For current Musescore, the default breath mark vertical offset make them look lower (0.50sp) than most “standard” printing, is there a way to set it in the general style, so I can save the style and just load it instead manually doing adjustments for every new song? there are so many of them in flute songs.
In reply to For current Musescore, the… by Xianyue賢越
Different publishers use different standards for things like this, but I agree ours are on the low side. looks like this is going to be improved for 3.0. But it doesn't seem there is currently a way (in 2.1 or 3.0) to specify a default - this should probably become a style setting. Feel free to report this officially as a feature request in the Issue tracker (see the bell-shaped notification icon above).
Meanwhile, you don't need to adjust these individually. Wait until you are all done, then select them all (right click one, Select All Similar) and use the Inspector.
In reply to You are, of course, completely correct by Musikate
You can select all elements of a given type by right clicking and choosing "select all similar elements" from the resulting popup.
But i wonder if perhaps there is something wrong with you installation, as the defaults for articulation shouldn't be "consistently too small and too low". Sometimes at certain screen zoom settings, thin markings like tenuto may appear too small at first, but that is just an artifact of the screen scaling. If you zoom in, or print, the markngs should appear normal.
So you might want to post a sample score and PDF showing how it appears on your system just to be sure there isn't something wrong.
EDIT: Now I see you are specifically trying to produce larger-normal print for seniors. So that probably explains it. I assume you've already turned up the overall notation size in layout / page settings / space?
In reply to You can select all elements by Marc Sabatella
Yes, right click select all and then inspect them globally can speed up.
And yes, I have turned up overall layout/setting/style to meet the needs of larger –normal print for complex songs. Like this one: Nocturnes, Op.9 (Chopin, Frédéric).
This is the reason I like musescore: I can honour the very original composer’s manuscript/first edition; I can choose where to line break at phrase ends so I can make the whole structure clear; I can play instruments and finger touch screen to edit the fingerings/bowing/breath at real time; I can mute one instrument which I take the role of; I can take these whole thing in hand at the size of 12 inch. Compare to traditional way of printing, pencil marking, back editing, printing again I am now hmm in paradise.
And you are right you can see I was doing these with scores, if you have look at the book published versions of the same song, they are all messy as, eg. The “~IMSLP86550-PMLP02312-Chopin_Nocturnes_Op_9_Kistner_995_First_Edition_1832.pdf”, you will understand why I love musescore so much, so much appreciation.
These customized layout/setting/style are still under ongoing change/improvements, as I have not more than one year musescore experience, they are not tested with all kinds.